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C#•2mo ago
eddyrick

Architecture help

Hi all, just trying to get some advice, best practices etc... I'm working on a platform at the moment which has the following pattern for all CRUD operations: UI > API > Service With today's patterns are a lot more of the CRUD functions performed at an API level, reducing the need for services?
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Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
no you'd still have some kind of separation between the API surface and the business logic
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
thanks @Jimmacle - I see with a lot of examples these days all talk about API's so wasn't sure if the days of a Windows Service were gone 😆
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
i didn't mean windows service, that's not what people usually mean when they say that that looked like code layers, like UI code calls an API that uses a service class to get the required data
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
ah sorry, I mean physical boundaries so in this example (which is the same for all 'applications' across our platform): UI (Angular) sits on our Web server API (.Net) lives on our API server Server (.Net console as Windows Service) lives on one of our APP Servers the common path would be: UI > API via HTTP Get/Post API > Windows Service via MessageBus these are also currently each in their own Repo and have their own pipelines etc...
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
in that case i would think the business logic tends to be built into the API application unless you have a more complex system that requires that separation
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
I wouldn't say it's complex at all, just the pattern that has been copied across the platform. It's a basic validation check and then insert, in most cases I'm under the impression that it should only be sent up to an app server if it requires background task processing etc...?
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
i'm not sure what an app server is in this context for basic CRUD i'd 100% put it all in the same application
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
Sorry, it's terminology that we use within the business. When I say app server I'm referring to a windows service that's communicated to via a message bus How would you handle recoverability if the CRUD failed to execute?
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
what needs to be recovered? at least for me most of my CRUD is done in a single DB transaction and it either all succeeds or all fails i guess a better question is how do you handle recoverability with your current setup?
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
I think that's why it's become a crutch to use the message bus, so if it fails, the message can be replayed
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
my projects are 99% user event driven so i just pass failures back to the UI, for the few things that are automated i use hangfire which will automatically retry jobs if they fail everything built into a single application
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
A single monolith application? How do you scale or have multiple instances?
Jimmacle
Jimmacle•2mo ago
i don't, i do internal software for a small office
eddyrick
eddyrick•2mo ago
We currently have something similar to: 10 UIs 15 apis 100+ console applications But all these are using a single database broken up by schemas
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