I get like 10 fps or less while using shaders on low quality

I have a 16gb 4060 ti and a 7800x3d, my pc is fairly new but for some reason I literally cannot play minecraft with shaders. I’ve done everything common to fix it but no matter what I do I still have issues, im just using iris and sodium and all those popular performance mods and nothing else. I’ve allocated 8 gb to minecraft
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Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
send a screenshot of your F3 menu
Duseral
Duseral4mo ago
What shaders are you using?
Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
I suspect that you plugged your monitor into your motherboard. This will cause games to use your integrated graphics (your 7800x3d) instead of your 4060 Ti. Make sure your monitor is plugged into your graphics card instead if it is already plugged into your GPU you can look up how to make Minecraft use your GPU on YouTube
STYX
STYX4mo ago
oops sorry I was at work but my monitor is plugged into my gpu, and I’ve already made minecraft use my gpu through the control panel
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
can you send F3?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Yes give me one min
STYX
STYX4mo ago
No description
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
do you have v-sync on? or any fps cap?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
it says 77 fps but the second i move around it goes to 10 or lower i dont have vsync on and the fps is on unlimited
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
can you check gpu usage in task manager
STYX
STYX4mo ago
it says its using around 65%
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
what shaders are these?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I’m using the BSL shaders
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
are you using any optimization mods?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I’m using sodium and all those mods
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
which mods?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
sodium, ModernFix, Lithium, Iridium, FerriteCore, EntityCulling, CIT Resewn, AttributeFix are the ones I have but without any mods I still get the same result
Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
I would try lowering your memory allocation to just 6 gb 12 will cause a decent amount of lag due to the Java garbage collector
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I’ve done 6 7 8 every number at this point but I still get the same result
Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
hmm
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
What is your rd set to? in dh and normal settings and try getting c2me and noisium
STYX
STYX4mo ago
It’s set to 6
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
dh rd?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Is that distant horizons ? I don’t think I have that
Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
they aren't using distant horizons
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
ah
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
this is really weird
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
Try using fabulously optimized, but add noisium and c2me That would get you the absolute best performance
Slooshie
Slooshie4mo ago
any improvements in fullscreen mode?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Alright thank you And when it’s full screen I lag worse
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
wow any resource packs or anything? which shader is it again?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I am using a 1024x texture by hodilton but when I don’t have shaders on I have no lag at all so I figured it was the shaders fault
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
that's why your lagging mate
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I’m using BSL because it’s the only shader I can run right now but I was hoping to run SEUS PTGI HRR 3
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
1024x textures lmao
STYX
STYX4mo ago
well when I don’t have shaders on my game runs super well with the resource pack
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
shaders with 1024x will lag on most systems that' s normal
STYX
STYX4mo ago
And with it disabled, I still lag with shaders
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
you do?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
yes
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
use no resource pack and just bsl
STYX
STYX4mo ago
the lag only happens when I apply shaders
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
fly around and get avg fps any bsl settings changed?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
alright just color ones to make the sky prettier
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
alr then try this after with 8gb ram allocated
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Uhh okay so turning off the resource pack did help a bit but my avg while flying around is 36 with it freezing occasionally
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
wow
STYX
STYX4mo ago
so do I need to just not use a resource pack
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
Do you have tons of apps open on your pc?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
No i have everything closed
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
def not a 1024x one laptop or desktop?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
desktop
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
any temp monitoring programs? could be temp throttling
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I figured it was just the shaders fault, because if I put on a 32x it still lags the same I’m not sure what that means I don’t think I have any lol
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
download rtss and hwinfo64, so you can view your temperatures while in-game
STYX
STYX4mo ago
alright
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
what cooler does your cpu have? its very powerful it needs something powerful for cooling
STYX
STYX4mo ago
I’m not sure I don’t know half the things in there uhh
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
did you build your pc?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Not by myself but I picked the parts for it I probably just choose the cheapest option honestly
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
look at the pc irl what is on the cpu area? a fan? waterblock? did the person who built it have a good understanding on parts?
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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STYX
STYX4mo ago
Is that the cpu area idk
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
so it's a waterblock maybe not a powerful enough one can you get rtss and hwinfo64? you can monitor cpu temp
STYX
STYX4mo ago
yes I’m doing that rn
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
so try that for sure sounds good hwinfo64 will look a little intimidating, but I'll help you set it up
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Yeah I’ve got no idea what any of this means
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
re open it and choose only sensors
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
it will look like this
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ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
yep right click any of the things and click osd settings
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Okay
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
"OSD (RTSS) Settings"
STYX
STYX4mo ago
What do I do after
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
scroll down until you see your cpu name amd r7 7800x3d
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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STYX
STYX4mo ago
Like that ?
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
yep now click cpu die average and select show in osd and same for core temperatures when you're done, open rtss
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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STYX
STYX4mo ago
like that
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
as long as you select show in osd for both
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Okay the rtss thing is installing
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
you did this right?
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ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
where my cursor is the blue
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Yes I did
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
alr what launcher do you use
STYX
STYX4mo ago
like for minecraft ? I just use the normal one idk what the others are
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
alr there are many other at, prism, multi mc, modrinth, curseforge just to name a few most people don't use normal launcher
STYX
STYX4mo ago
do I need to use a diff one then
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
*most modders nope ur good
STYX
STYX4mo ago
alright now the rtss thing it took me to notepad was that supposed to happen
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
uh no lemme see
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
what happened
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
we're checking temps
STYX
STYX4mo ago
oh wait now it took me to Microsoft edge
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
show me I'm confused just install it and open in toolbar
STYX
STYX4mo ago
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STYX
STYX4mo ago
it went to this
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
thats a read me open your toolbar with up carrot ^ and double click rtss caret*
STYX
STYX4mo ago
it came up with a purple screen
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
you should see something like this
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STYX
STYX4mo ago
uhh
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
just dm me and share screen lol
STYX
STYX4mo ago
Okay😭
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
I feel something else is wrong
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
you think? its a 7800x3d those run extremely hot
hardester
hardester4mo ago
I will look into this case in one hour. Putting this message as self reminder.
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
something with the hardware
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
and the waterblock on there looked pretty eh like I didn't recognize the company
STYX
STYX4mo ago
When i open it it just shows this
STYX
STYX4mo ago
No description
ȻɍȺƀƀɏĐɨsꝁ🦀
can you send all the task manager usages while running minecraft with the shaders?
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
Pretty much issue resolved temps were fine and fps was around 110 with bsl flying in creative the issue was using sues shaders with a 1024x pack which was detrimental to performance
hardester
hardester4mo ago
I also noticed that you're running a 1440p monitor, which will have some performance hit compared to running the game at 1080p. Another thing of note is you have 32 changed shaders settings. Likely many of them have caused a significant performance penalty for being stacked on top of each other. Try reducing the settings a bit.
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
for sure they told me the only settings they changed were with sky colors
hardester
hardester4mo ago
They're using a 1024x pack? :linus:
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
they were in the og imahe image this one
hardester
hardester4mo ago
That poor 4060 starving for VRAM.
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
haha but yeah mainly high res plus shaders your not gonna have the best performance
hardester
hardester4mo ago
Everything is solved then?
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
I would say so
hardester
hardester4mo ago
:haha_yes:
ShadowTech
ShadowTech4mo ago
:haha_yes: