Hardy Heritage - Topic of the day 11/20/23

Let's talk about what most people consider "heritage" or "classic" items (Levi's 501s, Bean Boots, etc). Do you have a favorite? Is there any item you think doesn't deserve the love it gets? Is this just another way to call something timeless??
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Confuzzler
Confuzzler8mo ago
a lot of items under that branch i feel are mostly there because of the functionality of it. feel like bean boots are one of those things that people came around too or so ugly that they're cute. but functionally they're great so continues to be a classic.
sinbad
sinbad8mo ago
Maybe only newly considered classic but timbs
imbadatusernames
Nike killshot 2s
jfarrell468
jfarrell4688mo ago
canvas sneakers?
Erik
Erik8mo ago
There’s definitely like neo-classics I feel like What’s the go to pair?
jfarrell468
jfarrell4688mo ago
Converse, I guess? But Superga has been around for a long time too. MFA doesn't seem to really like polo shirts right now, but the Lacoste polo shirt probably qualifies.
Erik
Erik8mo ago
Still love a Lacoste polo around the house, they’re so comfortable
jfarrell468
jfarrell4688mo ago
how about puffer jackets, invented by Eddie Bauer in 1936
Erik
Erik8mo ago
You joke but now that I think of it is a killshot not just a derivative of the GAT? Is a GAT a heritage bigbrain
imbadatusernames
Damn you cooked with this one
Erik
Erik8mo ago
I feel like for me the classic pair of canvas shoes is either Converse or Sperry’s. Depends on the type of shoe you want. Would say Vans but they kinda just copied Sperry 🫢
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Vintage style ones are pretty great tbh. Modern ones just aren't as fun most of the time. TNFPL and some more fashion focused brands do good iterations, but your standard fair from REI aren't interesting really at all imo. Especially from a heritage perspective https://www.instagram.com/p/CzthEGrOpbF/
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awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Pretty sure Keds are the actual OGs. Worn a bunch by dancers in the 30s and 40s bc of the new rubber soles for street dances like Lindy Hop
Elvander
Elvander8mo ago
Would you rate Crescent down works? I have one of their italian vests that is built like a tank.
Erik
Erik8mo ago
Damn I didn’t know that I guess Sperry innovated the design with the non slip sole
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Yeah people would switch shoes between social dancing which included a lot of ballroom styles like waltz and what-not and then put on their sneakers to dance Lindy Hop in the competitions and do aerials and stuff
Erik
Erik8mo ago
I’m not asking cause I doubt your validity but because I want to read, where did you learn this?
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
I like their stuff! Rocky Mountain Featherbed is also really nice. I do quite like the original style from Eddie Bauer tho. The vintange ones can still be found used for not that bad
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
No worries! It's kinda institutional knowledge in the Lindy Hop community. You might be able to find primary sources looking for talks from Frankie Manning. This is a blog post from Bobby White about the topic (I haven't read it in years so I'm fuzzy on exactly what it covers). But he has interviewed basically every living dancer from that era. https://swungover.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/swing-fashion-keds/
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Erik
Erik8mo ago
So they preferred a little bit of slip to the sole, vs sperry’s or vans which had the really grippy soles
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Actually the opposite. I'm not sure why Sperry's or vans weren't chosen since the CVO was first released in 1935 iirc. Probably had to do with availability in Harlem NY. Also it was mostly follows that wanted to swap from dance heels to sneakers since they were the fliers generally in the aerials Keds had been around longer (1917?)
Erik
Erik8mo ago
So they were probably more widely available The CVO probably didn’t get as popular until after the war because I think it was used by the navy on the boats And similar to khakis, they were then appropriated by college students
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
That's my guess yeah. I do know that it was keds and not other canvas sneakers that were popular with the NY dancers and Whitey's Lindy Hoppers but they also danced in leather shoes quite a bit
Erik
Erik8mo ago
Now this is the type of heritage conversation I was looking for when I thought of this topic Obscure history of casual garments My favorite
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Yeah! It's cool bc keds are some of the most popular shoes for Lindy Hop still for the same reasons. They're cheap, widely available, have nice soles for dancing that style, etc. Another server I'm in has been having a kick on traditional moc hunting boots which I think are super fun. There's a ton of really interesting iterations from brands like Visvim and the more traditional examples from Russell Moccasin. They can be really chunky and I think a really easy shoe to use different types of leather and materials while still looking good more often than not
awburkey
awburkey8mo ago
Even the plain models look really nice. This is one of the earliest examples from ~1920s https://www.instagram.com/p/CyrOQJspLbJ/
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J
J8mo ago
i always like to mention PF Flyers in the canvas shoes convo because i feel like they are underrated 😤😤😤 they kinda do fit the bill for a “heritage” brand too, at least in my mind
Erik
Erik8mo ago
100% I love PF Flyers, I just don’t love high top sneakers
J
J8mo ago
yeah i totally feel that, they’re the only pair of hi tops i own now love the look of Vans high tops but no longer love the feel lol (guess i’m getting older)
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae8mo ago
I think cowboy boots don’t get enough love. Here’s a beautiful pair from Graham Ebner. If I were rich as hell I would love some of his boots: https://www.instagram.com/p/CtEaIf-Oklm/?igshid=ODhhZWM5NmIwOQ==
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imbadatusernames
I was thinking the same. Might just get a shirt from him instead
jawntanamo_bae
jawntanamo_bae8mo ago
The pocket tees are pretty nifty
Confuzzler
Confuzzler8mo ago
@warpweftwatergate got some nice cowboy boots
warpweftwatergate
Always buy boot
Confuzzler
Confuzzler8mo ago
when in doubt, boot
warpweftwatergate
Lucchese is where it’s at if you’re looking for mass market