Very weird blur of sorts on LOD chunks. Using DH 2.0.0 RC3

Just noticed this, the effect is mostly visible on sand. Idk whether this is sand - exclusive šŸ˜„
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VOLKOUL
VOLKOULOPā€¢16mo ago
Download the first picture to see the effect. Discord seems to limit the resolution, making it basically unnoticeable.
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
That's SSAO It's on every block Configurable in options
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Still, the blur occurs in the edge of the blocks, if the blur is disabled theyre sharp as it should
VOLKOUL
VOLKOULOPā€¢16mo ago
Okay, this is really weird. First the terrain looked all blurred, then I teleported far away, then back and now it looks normal. Here take a look:
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ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
ok ive checked it on the lastest nightly build for 1.18 forge. It does happen.
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Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
Hmm, Null might know more He did most of the SSAO stuff recently
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
tweaked as most as i could for reducing it, though is only a teeny bit :/
VOLKOUL
VOLKOULOPā€¢16mo ago
Here you can see it very clearly. Must be a bug?
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ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
yes quite, the same as the previous imague.
VOLKOUL
VOLKOULOPā€¢16mo ago
I am using Rubidium and Oculus. Maybe they are the culprits?
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
im not using em and still have it also, though i only noticed it now(i only played like 20 mins with the mod)
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Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
Oh yeah, might be noise as well It's in advanced graphics settings
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Noise
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ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
No noise
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ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
AO with default settings. šŸ™‚
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
AO off
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VOLKOUL
VOLKOULOPā€¢16mo ago
If you take a look at the last screenshot I sent, you will notice that both Noise and AO are present/enabled. Those are NOT two screenshots merged together, but one. It's just that DH terrain is in some (seemingly random) areas blurred and thus brighter. It's a bug, not a feature (as far as I understand, at least)
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Im still confused how they even reached that observation logically
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
It's probably the lighting
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Do you want me to put on night vision plus the sun dead center above?
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
Sure, I really don't notice what you mean in my gameplay Not that I've been looking for that specifically though It could also be a lack of anti-aliasing
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Can you click the photos and see the sharpness in it?
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
oh at the top here?
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
AO off
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
this?
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ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
and bottom right, it is really noticeable if you compare it with no AO
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
@Null Might know more, not sure what's going on here.
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
so do you see that is blurry?
Steveplays
Steveplaysā€¢16mo ago
Yeah I do but I don't know why it's happening And I can't reproduce it on Nvidia
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
Im on nvidia
Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
ssao is intentionally blurred to hide dithering you can reduce blur radius and increase sample count
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
I dont see any dithering without AO, in what situation should be noticeable?
Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
ssao on, blur radius lowest setting
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
ive set it to 1, i cant see any dithering. Edit, ok now i see it. Its barely noticeable, i do notice more the blur of the edges of the voxels. With 0 its absurd. So the problem with AO, its AO itself. Neat. Thx Null
Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
So what's the issue specifically? Could you not find settings you liked? guessing it's either too grainy from dither, or too blurry?
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
the issue is the blurriness. yes exacly ive found a middle ground after experimenting a little
Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
did you try increasing the sample count? before I added the blur it was 128 should make dithering less noticeable at the cost of perf the dither and blur are so the samples could be dropped down, which over doubled perf on my end with DH
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
so its that perfomance heavy
Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
with 128 samples per-pixel, yes; but that's a lot
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
whats your opinion on this?
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Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
here's 6 vs 32 samples; no blur
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Null
Nullā€¢16mo ago
looks good to me, but I'm less picky with grain/blur
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
its still 6 samples 32 looks quite good
ThunderBolt
ThunderBoltā€¢16mo ago
@Denial VL Less blurriness.
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