Fabric Server Advice
Hey everyone, I'm working on my first Fabric/modded server and I'm having a challenge figuring some things out.
I've always done Spigot servers with plugins and such and I understand those systems really well, but I'm struggling with several key aspects of Fabric:
- What replaces Essentials/EssentialsX?
- Key plugins for me like Multiverse and Towny don't seem like they have any reliable mod alternatives?
- Is there even a way to do voting or voting rewards?
- Are there permission nodes for mod commands???
I'm just generally lost in the learning process. I think my history with Plugins/Spigot is unintentionally misleading me and making me approach problems the wrong way as well.
Any advice or comments is appreciated from those with more experience than me 🙂
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Also is it like actually impossible to use Plugins and Mods at the same time? I have a bunch of people telling me it is, but then I see actual functional servers running mods and plugins asynchronously
I'm confused lol
All of the plugin-mod hybrids are extremely unstable since Bukkit is not made with Forge/Fabric support in mind. Bukkit misses out on custom stuff, like custom items, custom mobs, etc if you're adding them with a mod.
The closest you'll ever get is SpongeForge
It has a plugin API which does not work with the Bukkit API in any way, but it does not have the ability to add custom stuff. Huge plus is that you can use Forge mods on it.
You can, but it is STRONGLY not recommended.
What are the downsides? I'm seeing servers do it but do they just have crazy strong machines capable of sustaining it? Or are they just gambling 24/7
Nucleus plugin is the most famous essentialsx alternative for forge
Quite literally gambling 24/7, risk to reward
the compatibility is so bad
PSA: Do not use Mohist. - EssentialsX
The essential plugin for Spigot servers.
They have decided that the risk of crashes, world/data corruption, incompatibilities are worth the payoff of using plugins and mods together.
for context mohist is a plugin-mod hybrid server software
Gotcha
Also thank you for Nucleus
Is Fabric typically better than Forge or basically the same?
Feed The Beast is a collection of mods that mostly work server-side, and are alternatives to a lot of plugins
Fabric is supposed to be like a modern version of Forge
I'm guessing because Forge was too old to make any game-breaking changes
Gotcha, thank you again you've been super helpful
Also, if you use fabric
Coreprotect doesn't work on modded, but there's a mod that is similar named "Ledger"
AFAIK there's no forge alternative.
Yeah I found ledger as well and I was testing it earlier today actually, works very very similar
I'm going to leave this thread open for a day or two in case other people see and want to add their expertise 👍
Hopefully this thread will help other people like me in the future lol
Regards to permissions, yes they have a very similar permission system.
Most of the big mods are good about it, but some mods don’t really.
LuckPerms has a fabric version
theres prism for spongeforge
That's a sponge alternative, not a forge one. But yes
thats true