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Admincraft•2y ago

Which server to choose for crossplay

Hi all, new to hosting. I want to set up a server that would allow PC, console, IOS/android players to all play together. Is this possible? Would only be about 6 people and no mods needed as I want to try vanilla. When trying to purchase a server, should I be choosing JAVA or bedrock? Also, there's subcategories like [Java]paper. [Java]spigot, [Java ]Vanilla, [bedrock]poketmineMP, [bedrock]Vanilla. Thanks for any help.

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MrMcyeet•2y ago

Use java Use paper Then install geysermc That'll let bedrock players join And play with java players

Lunaiskey•2y ago

make sure to install floodgate aswell so the player dont have to authenticate their accounts on join of the server

SkylordOP•2y ago

thank you, i'm assuming i can install latest version of minecraft on the java server?

Lunaiskey•2y ago

yeah

SkylordOP•2y ago

and, probably can't install any mods or it'll lock out console players?

Lunaiskey•2y ago

well yeah also geyser isnt compatible with forge or fabric

SkylordOP•2y ago

ok, cool, gonna give it a go, thanks everyone for the great info

Lunaiskey•2y ago

so it would be impossible to have modded clients on a geyser server since you cannot put minecraft mods on consoles

SkylordOP•2y ago

so starting [java]paper server, install geyser and floodgate - good to go?

Lunaiskey•2y ago

pretty much

SkylordOP•2y ago

ok awesome, will report back 🙂

MrMcyeet•2y ago

No mods But Paper can't use mods anyway You can install plugins, though And bedrock players can interact with them same as a java player would With the exception of resource packs Bedrock players can't see those

SkylordOP•2y ago

ah, they can't see them but will they be able to play still?

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Yeah

SkylordOP•2y ago

i'm on curseforge now, i see addons and Mods. Are the "addons" the same as plugins?

MrMcyeet•2y ago

No https://modrinth.com/plugins https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/

SkylordOP•2y ago

oh ty, the voice chat plugin looks fun

MrMcyeet•2y ago

https://builtbybit.com/resources/categories/plugins.1/ These three marketplaces are the biggest for spigot (and by extension, paper) plugins

SkylordOP•2y ago

thanks for those plugin links, will be installing some for sure if they don't break the game for the console players they even have a map plugin called dynmap looks really interesting

Lunaiskey•2y ago

some plugins are on curseforge, but its vast majority is mods which require either forge or fabric mods usually dont equal plugins plugins are server side only

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Don't use dynmap

ProGamingDk•2y ago

use pl3xmap or bluemap (bluemap for map quality, pl3xmap for lightweight, and quick to render, + small storage usage)

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Use pl3xmap

ProGamingDk•2y ago

not dynmap

SkylordOP•2y ago

ok will do

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Little tip, btw Install luckperms, spark and coreprotect

Lunaiskey•2y ago

plugins extend the server itself but they dont add new content, so no new mobs, items, etc

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Those three plugins are pretty much needed by all servers

ProGamingDk•2y ago

well

Lunaiskey•2y ago

you can construct new mobs and items through using already created items by overriding some of their features but its not gunna be completely new and some need work arounds to make them function how you wish mining speed for example is one you cannot change, but servers like hypixel have found ways to circumvent the limitations

SkylordOP•2y ago

yep - pretty much new to hosting, and want to ensure crossplay

ProGamingDk•2y ago

is there a reason u have the host provider role?

SkylordOP•2y ago

me?

ProGamingDk•2y ago

yes

Lunaiskey•2y ago

id assume they just clicked all the roles

SkylordOP•2y ago

oh

ProGamingDk•2y ago

-.-

SkylordOP•2y ago

my mistake

Lunaiskey•2y ago

hosting providers in the context of the role is someone who provides servers for public rental like pebblehost

SkylordOP•2y ago

just removed it

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Unpopular opinion: If you selfhost, you should have the hosting provider role, because you are providing yourself hosting :kappa:

Lunaiskey•2y ago

developer is someone who creates anything with real code, not someone who creates skripts

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Lmao SkRiPt dEvElOpEr moment

Lunaiskey•2y ago

if you say that skript is a real programming language i swear to god

ProGamingDk•2y ago

^^ i will find u

MrMcyeet•2y ago

It is one of the scripting languages of all time

Lunaiskey•2y ago

python spigot plugins when :KEKW:

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Lua plugins when? Smh

SkylordOP•2y ago

[java]paper - install plugins Geyser, Floodgate, pl3xmap, luckperms, spark and coreprotect sounds like a solid plan - thanks again all would have taken forever w/o the help

MrMcyeet•2y ago

🫡

SkylordOP•2y ago

shoot, one more question buying a 5 GB server, will that be good enough for 8 players?

MrMcyeet•2y ago

It'll probably be fine I generally recommend a minimum of 6g for any server And then scale to either 8 or 12g as your server and needs grow But never more than 12g

SkylordOP•2y ago

ok - bumping it to 6gb 🙂

MrMcyeet•2y ago

If your host gives you the option to change startup args, you should use aikars flags https://docs.papermc.io/paper/aikars-flags

SkylordOP•2y ago

oh would the recommend flag just be the first one on that link?

SkylordOP•2y ago

java -Xms10G -Xmx10G -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar paper.jar --nogui

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ProGamingDk•2y ago

well u wont have 10 gb

SkylordOP•2y ago

uhm sorry about that lol

ProGamingDk•2y ago

so change xms and xmx to 5-6G

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Yeah, just omit java -Xms10G -Xmx10G

SkylordOP•2y ago

didnt mean to add that paypal, its not mine

MrMcyeet•2y ago

The host will set xmx and xms (probably)

ProGamingDk•2y ago

dw

wiw•2y ago

wait sorry why no more than 12?

MrMcyeet•2y ago

Cause servers just wont need more than that, and, even though it may sound counterintuitive, overallocating memory will lead to worse performance There is a fraction of a percent of servers that might need more than that, but those are very few and exceptionally far between

Lunaiskey•2y ago

drop the prefix,

wiw•2y ago

does these work on forge or only vanilla sorry

Lunaiskey•2y ago

both

wiw•2y ago

oh? i tried starting with those flags on forge but got

Failed to start the minecraft server
joptsimple.UnrecognizedOptionException: X is not a recognized option

Lunaiskey•2y ago

post exactly what your flags are right now copy it

wiw•2y ago

java @user_jvm_args.txt @libraries/net/minecraftforge/forge/1.19.2-43.2.14/unix_args.txt nogui -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch -XX:G1NewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=50 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=16M -XX:G1ReservePercent=15 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=20 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -jar "$@"

the xmx and xms is in the unix_args txt

QarthO•2y ago

Can u show both those files? The user_jvm_args.txt and unix one Show meaning copy paste exactly

wiw•2y ago

yeah sorry

# Xmx and Xms set the maximum and minimum RAM usage, respectively.
# They can take any number, followed by an M or a G.
# M means Megabyte, G means Gigabyte.
# For example, to set the maximum to 3GB: -Xmx3G
# To set the minimum to 2.5GB: -Xms2500M

# A good default for a modded server is 4GB.
# Uncomment the next line to set it.
-Xms5G -Xmx16G

# Xmx and Xms set the maximum and minimum RAM usage, respectively.
# They can take any number, followed by an M or a G.
# M means Megabyte, G means Gigabyte.
# For example, to set the maximum to 3GB: -Xmx3G
# To set the minimum to 2.5GB: -Xms2500M

# A good default for a modded server is 4GB.
# Uncomment the next line to set it.
-Xms5G -Xmx16G

thats user_jvm_args

ProGamingDk•2y ago

flags are supposed to be in that file not in the run java start command

wiw•2y ago

ohh sorry thank you

SkylordOP•2y ago

err...having issues getting pl3xmap to work. Got bluemap working but wanted to try Pl3x. Am I supposed to be putting my server ip and port in the config.yml? nvm, figured it out lol

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