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(not sure what the corresponding forum channel is so here. Pardòn) Hello all you discord bots masquerading as students. I have recently applied to this course, although I already work in the industry ( 3 years, Full stack). I am one of those career changers self taught guys, so looking into clearing out some comp sci basics. What sort of technologies are being covered generally in the course ? ( I see C and C++ but I learnt never to trust what's written on college websites from my last degree) Is it theoretically hefty or there are projects going making some real stuff ( I don't know using C or Cpp for graphics, games etc) I think It will be great if these can be answered to start with. Danke!!
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muscle aggregator 82
CPA or CPP?
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
C, C++, SQL, javascript mainly, but you won't get into any real projects until pro options also not a great program for covering compsci fundamentals it's a programming diploma not a compsci degree, so no math and minimal theory
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
CPP
muscle aggregator 82
The course projects are mostly nonsense, you will need to come up with your own if you want something worth putting on a resume
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
very well, Thanks. This was an important one to know.
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
I'd say it won't have much value for you given that you're already working
muscle aggregator 82
If you want to learn compsci basics like you said check out https://www.computerenhance.com/p/welcome-to-the-performance-aware
Welcome to the Performance-Aware Programming Series!
Watch now (22 min) | A brief introduction explaining what "performance-aware programming" is, and what the course will be about.
muscle aggregator 82
Here you will learn how a processor actually works
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
oh yeah, and there's basically no focus on the hardware layer or optimization ^
muscle aggregator 82
Then find a good DSA course and you're basically a chad Maybe learn some networking
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
The course projects stuff sounds the same everywhere. I went to a design college and even they had shitty ones. I was largely looking at this course to get some systems programming under the skills. I worked in europe and recently moved to canada and it seems like everyone is using ancient tech here, even in jobs makig it harder to find those kind of roles.
muscle aggregator 82
And you're better than 99% of programmers
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
yeah they teach basic C and C++ here, but very basic you'd be fine self-teaching to reach the level you can get to in this program
muscle aggregator 82
I'd say the C++ is actually pretty thorough, they go into more detail than anywhere I've seen, but yeah self teaching will be your best bet imo
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
very valid, yeah more than most schools do
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
That is precisely why i applied here. All other places are teaching .net and java nothing against them, but I could do it on my own
muscle aggregator 82
I'd say take the perf aware course I linked, it costs piss all, then find a systems level project idea and build it learning whatever you need as you go
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
they don't cover any networking (anymore) iirc
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Yeah, this is valuable information guys
muscle aggregator 82
Yeah you will need youtube/udemy for networking
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
What year are you guys in ?
muscle aggregator 82
If you want a good project idea, write a good C++ code formatter which is better than clang-format (not hard to do). Then send me the link so I can use it 😆 I graduated a while ago I would do it myself but it's a big time investment
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Yeah 2 years indeed is I think if i get a job here before sept, I certianly skipping it. Else I could do even a year since it's pennines. But thanks for all of this info. and then do all of the courses you listed while the course is going on
muscle aggregator 82
Yeah the tuition is pretty cheap if you get OSAP grants, so you can dropout without much consequence if you find work I paid like 2K out of pocket for my whole education
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Yeah, I don't care about the degree. I just need time. college is mostly to buy time All colleges teach nothing really.
muscle aggregator 82
Well seneca actually is better in many ways than other colleges/uni imo, it set me up pretty well Very good if starting from nothing Very cost and time effective
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
So I have heard since community colleges don't have a great name here. They admit any and every international student. I don't have anything against that but it's not great at times. Yeah, I am eligible for OSAP so I think i might go for it unless someone gives me some sweet bucks. What kind of setting are you working in ?
muscle aggregator 82
I work at RBC doing backend sort of things
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
are you like writing cobolt ?
muscle aggregator 82
lol no but actually someone at work brought it up this week, I might look into it
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Yeah pretty interesting. It's also interesting migrating these systems. Much better than npm install which I am sure you know is half of the dev sector
muscle aggregator 82
javascript is literally making the world worse by the day
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
I know man, I don't even have a comp science backgorund, but I hate this level of abstraction This is why I want to learn systems programming
muscle aggregator 82
You would enjoy the course I linked
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
You never know what's working and what's not
muscle aggregator 82
Just leave web dev behind It's a collapsing civilization
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
could not agree more
muscle aggregator 82
There's a reason all the big companies are firing all the web devs they are realizing you don't need 30k engineers to do a basic web app that can be done by like 15 ppl Instagram services over a billion users and is maintained by like 5 dudes
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Yup, This is why they are firing product mangers too. Hiring more devs, releasing buggy code at the code of MVP lol
muscle aggregator 82
lol don't even get me started on agile coaches and scrum masters
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
hahaha GIVE ME YOUR STORY POINTS BRO
muscle aggregator 82
I'm looking into my crystal ball and seeing your future: performance aware programming course -> DSA course in C/C++ -> networking course (udemy/youtube) -> C++ code formatter project -> gigachad
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
lol awesome, Thanks for the advice. I think I have just subbed to the course..
muscle aggregator 82
I can give u a month free if you haven't paid yet
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
not yet
muscle aggregator 82
ok dm me ur email
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
that will be giga chad of you [email protected]
muscle aggregator 82
one sec lemme figure out how I did this
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
sure
muscle aggregator 82
Ok I sent enjoy
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Thanks man. owe you a beer. Let me know and i'll send it your way
muscle aggregator 82
dw about it. If you got any friends who want to try it lmk, I have more free gifts
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
Sounds good.
muscle aggregator 82
@jayman42 do you know this individual?
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
@mcsevs21 Hey sorry mate, just opened discord after days, I am one those social media slow millennial. Well now i know him, help a mate out.
split
split2y ago
How dare you abandon me at my time of need
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
lol hey man, you could start by What programming language you hate the most ? (you can say anything, but javascript is the right answer)
split
split2y ago
javascript is the right answer
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split
split2y ago
I dont know man its hard to go against js 😔
JayMan
JayManOP2y ago
ahh atleast you did not post React code. Although I also mostly use js/ts but it irks me at times, atleast most of the frameworks. @split
split
split2y ago
ahh atleast you did not post React code.
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Kink
Kink2y ago
is it still available? if it is then send it on [email protected]
muscle aggregator 82
@kink._. how much programming exp u got?
Kink
Kink2y ago
im currently doing dsa and finished java fundamentals
CaramelCorn
CaramelCorn2y ago
kys
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