Lines on the top

Hi! How can I remove the lines on the black top level? I turned on retraction and “avoid crossing perimeters”. I printed with PETG, 150 speed, 0.075 pa (measured with lines test), 0.93 em (measured with cube test), 230 Celsius of temperature. I’m pretty happy with the print quality at all, but I would like to eliminate that lines on top…suggestions?
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rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
The top right line is a nozzle movement…the bottom lines is a conjunction..I noticed that the infill is not continuous from start to finish but jump from a point to another and when returns to finish the gap it makes those lines…
adverse-sapphire
adverse-sapphire2y ago
Is it a monotonic top infill already?
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
Monotonic Infill and proper Extrusion Multiplier Calibration, that part is over extruded And reducing top layer line width to 80% of Nozzle Diameter in combination with on Point Flow Calibration can give you a total smooth surface
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
Like this
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rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Ok I’ll try. actually is a Rectilinear top infill. Can I use ironing on top of Monotonic infill?
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
Ironing is in general not so good, reducing of the top layer line width to 80% of nozzle diameter does the same and the result is mostly better
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
What is Point Flow Calibration?
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
you have to calibrate the Extrusion Multiplier for each Filament, depending on the manufacturer even each spool
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Ah ok, yep I already did it
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
not to be rude, but the above black surface is not well calibrated, there are severe signs of overextrusion
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
np Monotonic filled or the normal one?
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
Monotonic just prints from one end to the other so you don't have this irregular look on the top
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Yep, but Monotonic has two types:
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quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
ahh yes sorry, just the normal
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
With monotonic it looks a way better, but I have to calibrate the flow for this filament to make it even better.
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Now the remaining issue is the nozzle lines…
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rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
I have the crossing perimeters option ON...
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quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
It is still a bit to much flow, the nozzle drags over the little hills, but easier way to avoid it would be a small z hop
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
it can be a lower z-offset instead of flow? because I strictly follow this guide: https://ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/articles/extrusion_multiplier.html
Ellis’ Print Tuning Guide
Extrusion Multiplier
Ellis’ Print Tuning Guide
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
How much z Hop you have now?
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
z-hop is disabled, I mean z-offset, the distance between nozzle and bed...could it be too low causing the ridges?
quickest-silver
quickest-silver2y ago
No, the Squish would have no effect after a few layers
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
ok Now I redoing the EM test cubes
unwilling-turquoise
unwilling-turquoise2y ago
Hi! how is it going did you solve it? @arcy0185 I'm still having the same problem
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Hi! I followed the @heisenberg19x suggestions: I fixed my extrusion multiplier and changed the top fill with Monotonic. BUT.. I got better results with PrusaSlicer than SuperSlicer. PrusaSlicer seems to slice better the color change. In SuperSlicer the letters appears before completing the top layer, and this causes visible lines because the nozzle has to jump and was interrupted by the letters.
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rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
As you can see the first two images represent Prusa's slicing.
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
I'm sure that I can obtain the same results with SS with a bit of more effort. Maybe some properties are not well configured in SS. Anyway, the last issue I have to fix to make this print perfect is the lines around the holes that appears in both SS and PS:
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robust-apricot
robust-apricot2y ago
@arcy0185 please update if you manage to fix the lines around the holes… I have the same exact issue
rising-crimson
rising-crimsonOP2y ago
Sure, with the help of the community I hope we can fix. I open a differente thread for this
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