C
C#•2y ago
big OOF

Exception vs Logic

Hello, im going to read a file with File.Readlines(). I read that its better to use logic(like a if-statement) rather then try/catch. Which of these two would you say is better practice? Option 1. try{ fileLines = File.ReadAllLines(fileName); }catch { throw; } Option 2. if (File.Exists(fileName)) { try { fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName); } catch { throw; } }else { throw new FileNotFoundException(); } Im thinking option 1 will throw filenotfoundexception either way, and therefore its no reason to check it like in option 2? Thanks in advance!
47 Replies
Angius
Angius•2y ago
catch { throw; } is one of the most useless lines of code you can write Catching an exception just to throw serves no purpose Yes, ideally, you should check if the file exists first, then read the file, and not catch the exception
Nax
Nax•2y ago
Unless you're providing the file elsewhere via your method, you might as well use the latter. Only catch an error if you're going to handle it (ie, display a message to the end user) the less exceptions all around the better.
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
Also, catching Exception should be as high as possible, so when you catch exceptions be as specific as possible for as long as possible
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Okey thanks you for the input, its a console app and i want to tell the user if the file dosent exist. Is this looking better? 🙂 if (File.Exists(fileName)) { try{ ileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName); } catch(Exception ex) { Console.WriteLine($"Something went wrong when reading file. Message: {ex.Message}. Stacktrace: {ex.StackTrace}"); } } else{ Console.WriteLine("File dosent exist!"); }
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
why do you have the try/catch at all?
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
My thought is that it might occur an error when reading the file: fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
logging isn't handling the error so, if it happens it will bubble up to the caller anyway
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Okey! So maybe i just check if the file exist, if so -> Read file?
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
so, catch(Exception ex) is usually bad idea you want that to be as high as possible when you catch Exception like that anything that goes wrong ends up in the catch block
Nax
Nax•2y ago
For reference (idk if the bot can post here) put your code in like this ```cs // code here ```
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
I really like what mlem once said Using File.Exist beforehand, just to read the file afterwards is really useless The trillion amount of factors that could cause not being able to read the file exceed the use of File.Exists, + Between the check and the actual reading, the file could be gone - Not really reliable + During reading, the file could vanish, now you couldnt read it and the file is gone, though you checked it beforehand
Nax
Nax•2y ago
if (File.Exists(fileName))
{
try
{
var fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
}
catch (Exception ex)
{
Console.WriteLine($"Something went wrong when reading file. Message: {ex.Message}. Stacktrace: {ex.StackTrace}");
}
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("File dosent exist!");
}
if (File.Exists(fileName))
{
try
{
var fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
}
catch (Exception ex)
{
Console.WriteLine($"Something went wrong when reading file. Message: {ex.Message}. Stacktrace: {ex.StackTrace}");
}
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("File dosent exist!");
}
The docs list the exceptions that a method might throw as well as the causes for those exceptions. For example, ReadLines: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.io.file.readlines?view=net-6.0
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
^^ catch those exceptions that are known, if you can handle them
Nax
Nax•2y ago
Or even handle them ahead of time. If the user is inputting a 0 length path for example, tell them that they can't
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
guard statements are good
Nax
Nax•2y ago
ArgumentNull exceptions are easily mitigated by using nullable contexts but I wouldn't want you to spin too many plates at once if you're still learning.
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
That just leads to a TOCTOU bug later The file could be moved or deleted between the exists check, and the read And just because it exists doesn't mean you have the permissions to read it
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
Time-of-check to time-of-use
In software development, time-of-check to time-of-use (TOCTOU, TOCTTOU or TOC/TOU) is a class of software bugs caused by a race condition involving the checking of the state of a part of a system (such as a security credential) and the use of the results of that check. TOCTOU race conditions are common in Unix between operations on the file sys...
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Okey perfect thank you @Naxane! The only way im going to handle the errors is telling the user(writeline). Atm my code looks like this:
cs if (File.Exists(fileName))
{
try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (Exception ex) { Console.WriteLine(ex.Message, ex.StackTrace); }
}
else { Console.WriteLine("File dosent exist!"); }
cs if (File.Exists(fileName))
{
try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (Exception ex) { Console.WriteLine(ex.Message, ex.StackTrace); }
}
else { Console.WriteLine("File dosent exist!"); }
My thought is: Check if file exist - otherwise tell user. Surrond content inside if in try/catch so tell user other errors. Would you rather suggest me to remove the File.Exists() and catch these specific error in a try/catch? 🙂
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
Yes remove the Exists call But catch a specific exception type You almost never want to catch Exception itself
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Okey ill try that, thanks you! I have a vague memory of taht timCory(the youtuber) said that you want a try/catch at the lowest level - to be able to trace the error via stacktrace. Am i mistaken?
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
You catch exceptions where you can reasonably handle them
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Okey, and in this case when its a console app that reads a file. The only ways i can think of handling them is either: 1. Tell user(print message/trace) 2. Throw the caught exception(to make app stop running) Is there any other way you would handle them? 🙂
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
When folks say handle them, they mean deal with the root cause in a graceful way
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Ahh okey! I thought you meant - do something when exception gets caught
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
so lets say that you try to read the file, and it's locked, we could potentially handle that with a retry of some sort right?
Nax
Nax•2y ago
An input loop that takes the user's query again for example
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
If you don't have permission to the file, a retry won't really help, one is a temporary condition ( the locked file ), the other requires an external action and can't really be easily handled.
Nax
Nax•2y ago
Alternatively if this is a regular windows environment, open a file dialogue
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
There's also a thing called The Burden of Knowing, the number of things that might go wrong with reading a file is legendary, the more you know about it, the worse it gets; the more edge cases, what-ifs, you get concerned about goes up, but really mostly it's not a problem, things go wrong, plan for things to go wrong, catch the exceptions that your system is designed to handle and protect your application from everything else.
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Ive added a division by zero, is this more how the exception handling should be done? (If the zero came from user input maybe restrict the user from not being able to input 0 at the first place) - But just as a example 😉
try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{
var x = 1 / i;

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (FileNotFoundException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"The file was not found! {ex.Message}"); }
catch (DivideByZeroException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"YOU DIVIED BY ZERO AT {ex.StackTrace}"); }
try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{
var x = 1 / i;

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (FileNotFoundException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"The file was not found! {ex.Message}"); }
catch (DivideByZeroException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"YOU DIVIED BY ZERO AT {ex.StackTrace}"); }
Forgot the int:
int i = 0;

try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{
var x = 1 / i;

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (FileNotFoundException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"The file was not found! {ex.Message}"); }
catch (DivideByZeroException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"YOU DIVIED BY ZERO AT {ex.StackTrace}"); }
int i = 0;

try
{
fileLines = File.ReadLines(fileName);
foreach (var line in fileLines)
{
var x = 1 / i;

if (CheckUserInput(line))
{
InputMenu(line);
}
else
{
Console.WriteLine("Error with input!");
}
}
}catch (FileNotFoundException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"The file was not found! {ex.Message}"); }
catch (DivideByZeroException ex) { Console.WriteLine($"YOU DIVIED BY ZERO AT {ex.StackTrace}"); }
But lets say i catch the error i can handle, for example if i catch the filenotfound exception. If i dont catch the dividedbyzero exception - the program will crash. Im thinking it would be better to catch a general exception(catch(exception ex)) if there are any exception that i have missed? Or would the better be just to let the program crash? Sorry if im getting it wrong
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
You will want to have a catch all But for cases where you have certain behaviour on certain exceptions, you add them
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
very naive example
void Main(string[] args)
{
try
{
foreach(var line in LoadFile(args[0])
{
Console.WriteLine(line);
}
}
// catch-all here
catch (Exception ex)
{
Console.WriteLine("Something bad happened");
Console.WriteLine($"{ex.Message}");
}
}

string[] LoadFile(string file)
{
try
{
return File.ReadAllLines(file);
}
// only catch what you can handle here
catch(FileNotFoundException)
{
File.Create(file);
return new string[] {};
}
}
void Main(string[] args)
{
try
{
foreach(var line in LoadFile(args[0])
{
Console.WriteLine(line);
}
}
// catch-all here
catch (Exception ex)
{
Console.WriteLine("Something bad happened");
Console.WriteLine($"{ex.Message}");
}
}

string[] LoadFile(string file)
{
try
{
return File.ReadAllLines(file);
}
// only catch what you can handle here
catch(FileNotFoundException)
{
File.Create(file);
return new string[] {};
}
}
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
Great example, i really understand this topic more now! It is a bit confusing sometimes 🙂 Thanks you so much!
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
@big OOF this is also pretty important, don't directly output exception data to a user, exception data can leak information about your application pretty easily. Give a succinct but helpful message to the end user, and log the full set of data to a logging system.
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
File.Create opens a file stream btw
ero
ero•2y ago
i mean ideally you wouldn't try-catch at all try to make sure exceptions don't happen and handle any cases where an exception would happen ahead of time like you were doing in one of the snippets; check whether the file exists first. if not, don't continue with reading text from it. that way, a FileNotFoundException can't happen in the first place
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
Time-of-check to time-of-use
In software development, time-of-check to time-of-use (TOCTOU, TOCTTOU or TOC/TOU) is a class of software bugs caused by a race condition involving the checking of the state of a part of a system (such as a security credential) and the use of the results of that check. TOCTOU race conditions are common in Unix between operations on the file sys...
jcotton42
jcotton42•2y ago
You have to handle the exception here An Exists check won't cut it
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
yeah I was just hand-jamming in some code as a sample
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
What I just said lordnaseThisisfine
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
I agree ideally you don't have a try/catch at all, but things can happen, especially when reading a file; there's a lot of unforeseen aspects
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
What reason is there to not catch-all? Why would you want to catch FileNotFound, but not IOException?
Monsieur Wholesome
Monsieur Wholesome•2y ago
Or any other of these
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
it depends on your granularity and what you can handle there's no reason to catch any exception you can't handle also, my example was pretty trivial to elaborate the point about catching what you can handle but a super-catch like catch(Exception) shouldn't be caught at a low level for something like cosmosdb for instance...
try
{
cosmosClient.ReadEntity<Something>(id, partitionkey); // no I don't recall the exact syntax
}
catch(CosmosException ex) where (ex.StatusCode == StatusCode.NotFound)
{
// The entity doesn't exist in cosmos, we can probably do something here even if it's returning null
}
try
{
cosmosClient.ReadEntity<Something>(id, partitionkey); // no I don't recall the exact syntax
}
catch(CosmosException ex) where (ex.StatusCode == StatusCode.NotFound)
{
// The entity doesn't exist in cosmos, we can probably do something here even if it's returning null
}
If we catch exception instead we can't get the granularity that our read found nothing, also we don't know what really happened unless we read the error; so if we get some other problem we can't handle why not just let it bubble up?
big OOF
big OOF•2y ago
In that case when you say bubble up, do you mean let the exception get caught by the catch in a lover level, for example main method? 🙂
Mayor McCheese
Mayor McCheese•2y ago
yes NB: if you don't have a catch at your entry point then it'll bubble up to the user and vomit out a wall of text and end your program whether that's a controller, or a static main, etc. so your error will travel up the stack until someone catches it and handles it, you don't expressly need a try/catch at every level
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