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can someone check if the answers are right the book doesnt provide ans to subjective ques
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Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
@Opt this one
Opt
Opt7d ago
Yeah I saw it
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
besides the second are the others correct ?
Opt
Opt7d ago
Look through 43(i) and 44. You've made mistakes
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait which part lemme see once
Opt
Opt7d ago
Just look at them slowly. You'll figure it out
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
okk
Opt
Opt7d ago
Oh I figured out that reaction in 42 Wait
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
ohh hbr will be replacing no double bond wait its correct no im not gtting whts wrong in 43 i ohh the double bond part tht was stewpid it will be ch3cbr=chbr
Opt
Opt7d ago
,rotate No?
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait why both will be formed the cynaide and ether after h3o+?
Opt
Opt7d ago
A is correct. It's propene B is also propene because NaNH2 just removes HBr. There's no difference between it and alc.KOH if you have a single halogen. C is Anti-Markovnikov product, 1-bromopropane Oh crap H3O(+) hydrolyses cyanide to carboxylic acid I forgot to add that
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
but didnt we form alkyne so how will it give alkane
Opt
Opt7d ago
There's no alkyne anywhere
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait in b part alkyne wont be formed? doesnt nanh2 act as atrong alkyne former?
Opt
Opt7d ago
That's only if you have a vicinal di halide. If you have a single halogen, it's the same as alc.KOH
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
oh okk noted
Opt
Opt7d ago
,rotate
TeXit
TeXit7d ago
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Opt
Opt7d ago
I'm assuming 1 mol of methanamine because it's not mentioned.
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait im on the step where cyanide is getting attcked
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
cant we apply this in here or is this the case in only haloalkane ?
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Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
@Opt ,rotate
TeXit
TeXit7d ago
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Opt
Opt7d ago
It's specifically for haloalkanes
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
ohh thts why
Opt
Opt7d ago
Cyanide is a really really bad leaving group.
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
i applied same here so in aromatic cn turns to what?
Opt
Opt7d ago
It didn't turn to anything. It stayed there until it was hydrolysed
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
so what happens to it when it is put in sodium alcohol
Opt
Opt7d ago
What happened was that there is a strong base (ethoxide) which abstracted a proton from the carbon next to CN. The carbanion is stabilized by resonance and a strong withdrawing group. That carbanion executes nucleophilic attack on the aldehyde. This is something you learn later Don't wrorry *worry
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
later chpter?
Opt
Opt7d ago
You can do this after you're done with Aldehyde and Ketones
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
ohh but here in the step where uh wait a sec
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
where did this second compund come from the right side one
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Opt
Opt7d ago
It's in the second reaction. Below the reaction arrow It's another reagent
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait a sec oh my god but why will o come out in the step? after heating?
Opt
Opt7d ago
It's not O, it's OH Again, you'll get it after you learn the aldol condensation The O(-) picks up a H(+) to become an algohol *alcohol Heating causes dehydration
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
na naa the step right after this
Opt
Opt7d ago
Yeah, that's what I explained
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
where o left forming double bond
Opt
Opt7d ago
O didn't leave?
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
wait so it will turn to oh and heating will mke dehydrogenation?
Opt
Opt7d ago
Only the π bond shifted , making an O(-) Dehydration Same as alcohol → alkene
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
yeah yeahh dehydration
Opt
Opt7d ago
Oh you haven't learnt that either
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
ahh ok yeah i hvnt done alcohols
Opt
Opt7d ago
This is all mostly aldehydes and ketones stuff
Sephrina
SephrinaOP7d ago
i think i will revisit this que whn i am done with tht chap adn then tru gona leave it for now thks opt got half of it +solved @Opt
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