Counting Problem

I do seem to have made some cases, but some of them do not work out to be easily computable.
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2w ago
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2w ago
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Opt
Opt•2w ago
Lance posting a PnC doubt? :sweaty:
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
I'm hella rusty at combi, so yeah. 🥲
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Just a moment, are we considering rotationally symmetric colourings as identical? Or are taking labelled squares?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Labelled squares.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Oh that makes it easier
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Okay, I think I messed up my case-working ig.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
I got 96 but that's too low right?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
I don't have the numerical answer, but this seems feasible I think.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
What I did was considering each 2×2 There are sixteen such. We choose two from the four squares to be one colour. By default the other two need to be the other colour. So 16×(4C2) If we had to consider rotational symmetry, it would be tougher But for unique cells, I think this is feasible
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
But consider a square a2,a3,b2,b3; by 16.4C2, we also count cases where the two red squares on square a1,a2,b1,b2 and a3,a4,b3,b4 are towards the sides of intersection, which defies the condition that each 2x2 square must have 2 red and yellow squares right? [Where a,b... is column and 1,2... is the row.]
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Oh nvm
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Okay, I think I have a solution... There would be 2 cases one where 2 reds (or yellows) are adjacent and one where no 2 reds are adjacent?
BlindSniper (BS)
BlindSniper (BS)•2w ago
shocking
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Ok, bit of thinking later, I think there are only three types of solutions
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Because if 2 reds are adjacent, that forces the entire column (if they are side-by-side) to be alternating and similarly the column next to it has to be alternating either opposite or similar to the scheme. (2 choices, but again, leads to over counting ig)?
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Yeah. So we have alternating rows of colours, alternating columns of colours, and checkerboard That's 6?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Consider a column color scheme: R,R,Y,R,Y,R,R,Y where R and Y denote the color of the top most cell and colors are alternating, that works too doesn't it? Ahh. So the problem translates to "Number of binary strings of length 8 such that there are atleast 2 similar digits together".
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Also consider this. RRYYRRYY YYRRYYRR And so on
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Which would be 2^8-2 for the columns, 2^8-2 for the rows and the 2 chessboard colorings ig.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
RRRRYYYY YYYYRRRR also works Yup
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Yeah, this seems correct.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
But you could also have nonalternating in one direction Ie, RRRRRRRR YYYYYYYY RRRRRRRR YYYYYYYY And so on Did we account for that?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Yes those are accounted for.
Opt
Opt•2w ago
We discounted the alternating patterns then? Yeah, because that would be overcounting Yup, I got your solution
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
Because 2^8-2 represents the binary strings where atleast 2 similar digits are together (Call red 0 and yellow 1)
Opt
Opt•2w ago
Yup, I got it.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP•2w ago
+solved @Opt
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2w ago
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