Maximum Height of a Ballistic Pendulum

Consider the given ballistic pendulum. For the given setup, no torque is present on the sphere w.r.t the center of the sphere, so shouldn't the rotational component of K.E. be zero?
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Opt
Opt4w ago
I'm getting $\frac{mv^{2}l^{2}}{2gI}$
TeXit
TeXit4w ago
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Opt
Opt4w ago
Where I is moment of inertia of the system about the point of suspension
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
Yep, that is correct but that would mean some rotational part of K.E. also right? Where does that come from?
Opt
Opt4w ago
It is rotating about the hinge point right? Think of this as a pendulum with a solid rod instead of a string. The system(sphere+block+rod) itself has a rotational KE, but the (sphere+block) doesn't. The linear KE of centre of mass of the combination of sphere and block is the same as the rotational KE of everything taken together
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
Doesn't it then work out something like this?
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Opt
Opt4w ago
v' = v/2 is right, but as they rotate, there is torque due to gravity right? mglsinθ begins retarding their rotation
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
But not w.r.t centre of mass?
Opt
Opt4w ago
Wrt to hinge
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
Wait, but when writing angular momenta of the system, we write L(system w.r.t c.o.m)+L(c.o.m about the chosen point) right?
Opt
Opt4w ago
Yes.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
So, if there is no omega w.r.t C.o.m, doesn't it just become L(c.o.m about the chosen point), which is mvx/2?
Opt
Opt4w ago
But you can also write it as Iw which is (I_s+mx²+mx²)w right? By parallel axis theorem, the I of sphere about hinge is I_s + m(distance of COM from hinge)²
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4w ago
Ah I see. Oh right, there would be some omega. +solved @Opt
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