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iTeachChem•3w ago
Gamertug

Basicity Order

ans is C why is 2 more basic than 4
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iTeachChem Helper•3w ago
@Dexter
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iTeachChem Helper•3w ago
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Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
Nitrogen has -I effect Both lonepairs are localised so resonance is not happening
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
there are 2 lone pairs but at a time only one can go into resoannce so shouldnt that mean other is free for basic donation
Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
resonance keliye path nahi hai how will resonance happen
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
wait lemme check
Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
Adjacent lonepair and Pi bond hai ek gap hona chahiye for resonance
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
it can if it does not go towards nitrogen direction but the opp one
Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
fir Nitrogen pe vacant orbital nahi hai pi bond accept krne keliye
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
wait u saying it cant form 4 bonds? it does in ammonium ion
Prachi
Prachi•3w ago
In 2 and 4, no nitrogen participates in resonance
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
yes so shouldnt basicity for 4 be more
Prachi
Prachi•3w ago
But in 4, both nitrogen ek dusre par -I charge laga rahe hai, isliye 4 kam basic hai
Prachi
Prachi•3w ago
Something like this 👇 Here, second compound par Oxygen -I charge laga raha hai to vo (a) se less basic hoga
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Nimboi [ping if answering]
oxygen ke liye samajh me aata hai because its already very electronegative so it isnt willing to donate its electron lone pair but when there are 2 nitrogen, doesnt the number of basic sites double even if inductive effect isnt favourable 2 nitrogen willing to donate should be greater than 1 nitrogen willing to donate ryt @Dexter?
Gamertug
GamertugOP•3w ago
same quesiton
Opt
Opt•3w ago
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Why is pyrimidine less basic than pyridine?
From Wikipedia's article on pyrimidine: Because of the decreased basicity compared to pyridine, electrophilic substitution of pyrimidine is less facile. But why is pyrimidine less basic than py...
Opt
Opt•3w ago
It's electronegativity of nitrogen confirmed
Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
I guess the question is about the basicity of the highlighted Nitrogen
Nimboi [ping if answering]
this is interesting, but seems very counterintuitive
Opt
Opt•3w ago
Take RNA and with the no.of lone pairs on those riboses, you have an amazing base
Nimboi [ping if answering]
fair but why does that not happen
Opt
Opt•3w ago
Oxygen is a selfish bish
Nimboi [ping if answering]
if u assign personalities to chemical elements u a real one
Dexter
Dexter•3w ago
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Dexter•3w ago
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iTeachChem
iTeachChem•2w ago
+solved @Prachi @Opt
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iTeachChem Helper•2w ago
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