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Satisfactory Modding•2mo ago

Universal Machines Idling Themselves

@Andre Aquila <Aquila Industrial> I've finally gotten to the point where I am installing a great number of machines via blueprints, but now every time I'm loading up, I'm finding machines that are idling themselves. I cannot restart them unless I delete and reinstall that machine, then it is fine.

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AndreAquila•2mo ago

Hmm thats new. Is that happen8ng only with machines with fluid output, or to every machine? Some conflict with the more fluid space maybe?

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Quite! So far, it is only happening with my Rocket fuel Recipe. Since this is a Fuel Power plant, all are utilizing that mod. Right now, I cleared the area of the generators in attempt to test if it is the blueprint or something else. I'm leaning to something else since the HoR, Diluted Fuel and Turbofuel portions are still 100%. @joanna_hammond Hmmmm... Looks like your insight may be dead on the money. The BPs I set down and hooked up, I took the power leads off the generators in the BP Designer, let them fill their buffers completely and stall out... Then I plugged in the FuelGens to see what happens... So far, Nothing. :interesting: Okay... Now that I know where to look, definitely seems to be in the Increased Machine Fluid Buffer mod: It seems to like buffers filled to near capacity when the machine is running. Letting everything fill to stall seems to let it work, otherwise it thinks like the machine is filled to capacity and waiting for the buffer to empty. Update: Yeah, sure seems to be the Fluid Buffer Mod. Just installed half of one arm of my power plant, nearly a thousand generators, everything is fine!

AndreAquila•2mo ago

Hmmm Good to know Hawke!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

? Hmmm, doesn't make a lot of sense. If a pipe is connected and there is somewhere for the fluid to flow it should just empty. It's no different to before, just bigger. If there is nowhere for the fluid to go it will stall.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

I know it sounds very strange. It's just my observation as one that beats the tar outta everything to see if it breaks. Got the Buffer limit set to 500. Only machines that are self stalling were the ones not permitted to fill up to capacity after installation. Now that I am letting them fill up, they're running fine.

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

ok, 555m3 output? wow

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

yeap 🙂

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

that roundbracket figure... is that really 277,000 m3 output? 277k m3 per minute?

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

That's a long standing bug in the vanilla system far as I know I get that weirdness in other Machine Mods

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Strange, maybe it's something to do with being so close to the 600m3 max? for pipes.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Maybe. Shouldn't be, since I keep everything within the system set limits for said pipes. Like my HoR Machines are cranking out 560/min... and theyve been working fine from the outset

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

I can't think of anything that I could do to make it do something different. All the mod does is change the size of the output buffer from 50m3 to (your choice)m3

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Hum... Maybe just put a warning on the Mod page about the stalling when set to the max limit? At least till some epipheny hits ya where the problem may lie 🙂

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

The code is silly simple, maybe Andre can see if he can see an issue......

if (not recipe)
{
    UE_LOG(LogLFOB, Display, TEXT("Recipe not set, nothing to do."));
}
else
{
    UFGInventoryComponent* inventory = self->GetOutputInventory();
    FInventoryItem item;
    FInventoryStack stack;

    FLargeFluidOutputBuffersConfigurationStruct config = FLargeFluidOutputBuffersConfigurationStruct::GetActiveConfig(self->GetWorld());
    int32 size = 1000 * config.OutputBufferSizeFluids;
    TArray< FItemAmount > products = UFGRecipe::GetProducts(recipe);

    for (int32 i = 0; i < products.Num(); i++)
    {
        TSubclassOf<class UFGItemDescriptor> itemClass = products[i].ItemClass;
        EResourceForm form = UFGItemDescriptor::GetForm(itemClass);
        FString itemDesc = UFGItemDescriptor::GetItemName(itemClass).ToString();
        if (form == EResourceForm::RF_GAS || form == EResourceForm::RF_LIQUID)
        {
            UE_LOG(LogLFOB, Display, TEXT("Found %s Output '%s' at index %d, increasing buffer to %d m3"), (form == EResourceForm::RF_GAS ? TEXT("Gas") : TEXT("Fluid")), *itemDesc, i, config.OutputBufferSizeFluids);
            inventory->AddArbitrarySlotSize(i, size);
        }
    }
}

if (not recipe)
{
    UE_LOG(LogLFOB, Display, TEXT("Recipe not set, nothing to do."));
}
else
{
    UFGInventoryComponent* inventory = self->GetOutputInventory();
    FInventoryItem item;
    FInventoryStack stack;

    FLargeFluidOutputBuffersConfigurationStruct config = FLargeFluidOutputBuffersConfigurationStruct::GetActiveConfig(self->GetWorld());
    int32 size = 1000 * config.OutputBufferSizeFluids;
    TArray< FItemAmount > products = UFGRecipe::GetProducts(recipe);

    for (int32 i = 0; i < products.Num(); i++)
    {
        TSubclassOf<class UFGItemDescriptor> itemClass = products[i].ItemClass;
        EResourceForm form = UFGItemDescriptor::GetForm(itemClass);
        FString itemDesc = UFGItemDescriptor::GetItemName(itemClass).ToString();
        if (form == EResourceForm::RF_GAS || form == EResourceForm::RF_LIQUID)
        {
            UE_LOG(LogLFOB, Display, TEXT("Found %s Output '%s' at index %d, increasing buffer to %d m3"), (form == EResourceForm::RF_GAS ? TEXT("Gas") : TEXT("Fluid")), *itemDesc, i, config.OutputBufferSizeFluids);
            inventory->AddArbitrarySlotSize(i, size);
        }
    }
}

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Worth a shot I guess!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

As you can see, it just replaces the existing stack with a new stack (AddArbitrarySlotSize) either adds at the index or replaces the current at the index. Nothing else on the machine is changed.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

IKR, but I wouldn't know that much... been almost 30 years since I touched coding 😉

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

hehe.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

I'm just a Technical Engineer that finds and solves problems hehe

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Well, let's see if Andre can see an issue with it. But it is a little confusing.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Yeap! At least there is a way around it!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

true

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

ah well. Still, thanks for hearing me out about the potential issue!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

It can't even be backflow I would guess, fluids can't go back into the machine... lol

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

IKR!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Of course I'll listen, don't want bugs 😄 You really are pushing the game to it's limits though... LOL

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Not as hard as some vanilla players I could name! But they are more Architectural!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Yeah, Kibitz

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

He's nothing compared to Fluxo!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

true

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

All Righty Then! I'm gonna close out this thread and let you and Andre put your heads together about this issue. And I'll be MORE than happy to test it if ya guys come up with anything!

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

ty The error you described is VERY real... It's a timing issue. I started to experience it yesteday on a super stupid slooped test machine. I think I have a fix, testing now. And it all appears to be fixed 😄

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Very Noice! Knew there was something there! 😜

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

an x41 production machine... lol a batch size of 656m3 Not an issue when you have pipes of 2400m/min, 4800, 9600 and 19200 ..... Still under development but.... 😄

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Good luck getting around THAT particular peice of Hard Coding! 👍

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Already done.

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Buah?! 🤯

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

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joanna_hammond•2mo ago

Lots to fix still though, valves work but the entry text won't accept values above 999.... and the flow value is wrong (even though the underlying model [debug output] is correct.)

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

still...! 😁 ya like making gamechanging mods, duncha!? 😉

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

I do 😄 If you DM me I can give you a link to a preview version, manual install on a backup save obviously. It has issues obviously. But if you want to play and test?

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Sure, why not? I'm known for beating the eff out of things till they break 😉

joanna_hammond•2mo ago

I'll dm you the link then, I assume you know how to do a manual mod install?

KnHawkeOP•2mo ago

Yarp

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