calorimetry

5g ice at 0 C is mixed with 5g os steam at 100C. what is the final temp ?? my approach converting all to same state at same temp -> ice to water at 0C requires m(Lf) heat therefore mix becomes 10g water at 0C +mLv+100ms -mLf mLv+100ms -mLf will increase temp of 10g water 2msT = mLv +100ms-mLf T= (Lv-Lf+100s)/2 and give 10g water at T
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
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iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
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Nimboi
Nimboi•2mo ago
what are the values of L for ice and steam
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP•2mo ago
not given 🤡
Nimboi
Nimboi•2mo ago
iirc steam is more so steam will give m(Lv) energy to ice which will cause the ice to turn into water and whatever energy the steam lost will also make the steam turn into water right or am i tripping
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP•2mo ago
ill summarise my approach wait converting all to same state -> ice to water at 0C requires m(Lf) heat herfore mix becomes 10g water at 0C +mLv+100ms -mLf mLv+100ms -mLf will increase temp of 10g water 2msT = mLv +100ms-mLf T= (Lv-Lf+100s)/2 and give 10g water at T correct? cant even comment cuz direct ans given is 100 C
hithav
hithav•2mo ago
80 for ice and 540 steam in cal/g
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP•2mo ago
this will give 280C as final where am i going wrong
Nimboi
Nimboi•2mo ago
think about this in terms of energy flow steam becomes water, steam cools down to 0 degree celcius mL for steam = 2700, mc deltaT for steam = 500 steam releases 3200 cal of energy in cooling down to 0 degree celcius and becoming water now if you calculate mL for ice, its = 400 cal the water (formerly steam) gives that 400 cal to ice to melt and what we're left with now is 10 grams of water with 3200-400 = 2800 cal of excess energy that gives delta T = 280 BUT we didn't account for water --> steam conversion heating up 10g of water to 100 deg requires 1000 cal, so now we're left with 1800 cal of energy but converting all of that water to steam requires 5400 cal, which is way above what we had so the system's temperature stays at 100 degree celcius, with some of the water converted to steam with whatever energy is left and some that stays as water
hithav
hithav•2mo ago
5(540) is producing more than enough heat to get ice to water and then that water to 100°C but it won't have the energy to convert it into steam. so in the 5g steam some of it will get converted into water at 100°c to bring the water from ice to 100c and then the process will stop.
Nimboi
Nimboi•2mo ago
yeh exactly god i love calorimetry
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP•2mo ago
ok so 3.3g steam and rest water at 100deg C big thanks for such elaborate explanation +solved @Nimboi @hithav
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
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