A good config to stop flyhacking with Spartan Anticheat

I’m running a vanilla anarchy server and can’t seem to stop people flying around in similar-to creative mode. I purchased Spartan but it appears to be bypassed by clients. Does anyone have a good config for Spartan or any other solutions to stop flyhacking? My online searching seems to indicate that preventing flyhacking is challenging.
117 Replies
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Spartan is one of the most bypassable anticheats, for an anarchy server you would want NCP, it's free i think
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
your issue is that you are using spartan
Lily
Lily2w ago
depends what version your running as no cheat plus isn't comptable with all versions
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Its 1.5-1.21 So
Lily
Lily2w ago
ah
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Or try grim and buy a better server Most other anticheats will have fly bypasses
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
preventing fly hacking really shouldnt be difficult though
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
And if it's anarchy you shouldn't really care about ghost cheaters
Lily
Lily2w ago
that's very true
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
It is with anticheats like vulcan, spartan, etc
Lily
Lily2w ago
I thought anarchy was no rules
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
vulcan has worked perfectly for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pANARCHY Server Admin
Anarchy is meant to be challenging. Flying around cheeses and destroys minecraft
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
he said ghost cheating
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
You still have a basic anticheat to prevent people from flying 2000bps and lagging ur server
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
fly hacking isnt ghost
pANARCHY Server Admin
Incredible that a paid anticheat is so crap. Dammit!!!!
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Like you wouldn't use ncp on a normal server because you can use like 3.5 block reach, killaura, etc But for an anarchy server is more then enough And i don't think there's even been a NCP fly without elytra
pANARCHY Server Admin
Of course players are welcome to cheat, but I’m also welcome to prevent it. That’s the anarchy game
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
$$ bukkitevents $$
pANARCHY Server Admin
That’s right. If you take the 2b2t standard - the amount of rules are insane. They’ve even started to delete un-used chunks to save memory. Anyway, thanks for the responses. It seems Spartan is my issue.
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
2b2t uses ncp
pANARCHY Server Admin
Thanks
Lily
Lily2w ago
ya tbh I don't usually use anticheats as my server is whitelist only
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Afaik you can bypass spartan fly checks just by spoofing on.Ground
pANARCHY Server Admin
Spartan has conquered Google with “best of all time” - this needs to end. They must be making a fortune
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
How did they do that wtf Best of all time deff sparky on its prime Or meow (On its prime)
pANARCHY Server Admin
I’ll look into NCP - thanks for your advice
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
But that one was private for a single server so Sparky
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I believe 2b2t uses grim if I'm not wrong
pANARCHY Server Admin
Grim completely ruins boats. I tried it
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Ah well they moved to 1.20 so they could I doubt it though
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I'm fairly certain I've heard stuff about it here
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Because grim uses cpu like it's unlimited 2b2t forks everything so they fixed beats if they were to use it
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
never broke anything for me, tho I dont run an anarchy server
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Try polar Its also simulation based
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
ehhh polar is amazing
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Or whatever u call that type of anticheats
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
but not for an anarchy server
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Ehhhh If he doesn't want bypasses I also know you cannot fly on polar
pANARCHY Server Admin
NCP seems to be the ticket right now
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
polar is by far the best anti cheat but its not for anarchy servers
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Probably Anticheat market is shit rn
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
not probably, 100%
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Bring back sparky 🗣🔥
pANARCHY Server Admin
Or maybe the hackers are just too advanced now
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Its still not that hard to bypass 😔 Nah Or maybe yeah
pANARCHY Server Admin
Arms race
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
what bypasses polar?
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Good anricheat devs were hired at big tech A lot of clients No big bypasses though
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
maybe with really slow features
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Small bhop, slowish killaura, etc
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I mena mean
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Better then other anticheats
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
thats barely a bypass, and you will still get banned
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
But it won't get to sparky's level
pANARCHY Server Admin
Why the hell hasn’t minecraft/mojang developed an anticheat to stop this? That’s what stands out to me the most
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
why would they
pANARCHY Server Admin
I think hacking loses players on net
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
hacked client mods dont break eula theres no point
pANARCHY Server Admin
I mean just an anticheat to stop it. No need to ban anyone Hacking alienates player bases in general
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
The reason polar/sparky were so good its because the acess Im pretty sure polar ToS also prohibits you from discolsing you run polar By restricting access client devs can't find bypasses as easily That's why all free anticheats suck
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
it does
pANARCHY Server Admin
Interesting stuff
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
polar is closed off for good reason
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Any client dev can just run them on their server with alerts and autoban off and spend 3hrs developing bypasses
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
but once again, polar isnt the anticheat for an anarchy server its a monthly fee
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
I mean if u want no fly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
no point in buying polar just for fly checks use ncp
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Real Im glad i don't have a server anymlre I don't know which anticheat I would use
pANARCHY Server Admin
Okay cool. It’s only really flying out of spawn that annoys me. I want players to die and have a hard time etc NCP it is!
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
vulcan is recommended by mostly everyone here
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Vulcan is so bad tho
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
not really
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
As in disabler do what you want bad Any semi-private client will have a full vulcan disabler Not to mention that one zero day forceop exploit I wouldnt rlly trust the dev after that
Lily
Lily2w ago
they did fix it within hours of hearing about it though
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
99% of people playing anarchy wont be using disablers
Lily
Lily2w ago
which for a code base that is as large as vulcans is pretty good and yes I'm guessing here have no proof that the code base is huge
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Its not because it's a really stupid exploit that if the dev knew about good coding praxtices wouldn't have happened You wouldn't use vulcan on anarchy either but still yeah they would have disablers
Lily
Lily2w ago
it would happen though because of the way chest events work
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Have you seen 2b2ts community? They find 85% of the zero days in minecraft
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I've never had any issues with Vulcan, maybe some false flags here and there but my server uses a lot of custom stuff
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Okay but why do you only check for chest title and not if they have permissionn to open the menu Or at least check if they have permission when running the commands
Lily
Lily2w ago
becasue again it's confusing as hell
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
so far, every cheater that has been blatant was kicked by vulcan very quickly again though, I dont run an anarchy server so idk about all that use ncp is my suggestion updated ncp in particular
pANARCHY Server Admin
Already downloaded the jar 🤙🏻
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
we used ncp before switching to vulcan, and imo it would work quite well for an anarchy server
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Bad cheaters
Lily
Lily2w ago
+ it was 1 person behind the plugin so I can forgive small mistakes like that and the exploit was kind of hard to do anyway
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Tbh only minigame cheating is kinda fun So unless u run like skywars don't expect advanced clients
Lily
Lily2w ago
because you had to match the name of the anticheat exactly
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
of course, but I dont run a server where people would be attempting to bypass
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Sparky had 1 person behind the entire anticheat and it never had anything like this
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk2w ago
vulcans exploit wasnt even because of frap
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I also run on 1.21.4 so, really not that many clients for it, theres some russian ones im sure would bypass, but their users are the farthest thing from my player base
ProGamingDk
ProGamingDk2w ago
iirc it was one of the other developers
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
So it's not only 1 person working on vulcan.... Tbh after pandemic most client devs also left community so And sparky was miles more advanced then vulcan, old sparky would still beat even latest vulcan
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
Idrk, i dont cheat anymore
Lily
Lily2w ago
tbh me neither
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
Cheated wayyyyyyyy back in the day of hcf
Lily
Lily2w ago
the clostest thing to cheating is running mods like mouse tweaks
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Here you can see two very different types of cheaters: Idk man i just joined, enabled disabler and did whatever i wanted
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
I cheated a fair bit around the time of pandemic But that was the last of it
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Pandemic was prime With everyone thinking verus was the goat and all big servers running verus lol
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
Rise fell off..
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Comercial aah client Any free client had verus disablers lolll
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
Idk, i mostly cheated years on years ago Pot and hcf days
pANARCHY Server Admin
I’ve just loaded NCP jar onto my server. The config file is way larger than Spartan, which is already a good sign. The defaults seem to be quite good. I’ll just let it run and see how it goes Reconfigure as needed. If anyone has a NCP config they recommend then please shoot it through, otherwise I’ll just learn as I go Thanks so much for all the info here. You guys are great
Jenkins
Jenkins2w ago
incorrect, they use grim it doesn't, you can disclose that you use polar freely. we don't allow testing with malice intent obviously though ehhhh, i can assure you almost all auras are detected
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
It did when they were on 1.12 tho
qvaras
qvaras2w ago
mb, thought it did
Upioti
Upioti2w ago
Didn't stitch have bypass config?
pANARCHY Server Admin
Would you recommend NCP? It seems to have been been recently updated I’ve done some research. Looks like 2b used an older version of NCP, then switched to Grim. This is being discussed on Reddit. I personally didn’t have a good experience with Grim. It made boats unmountable on my server and my guys couldn’t fix it. I’ll use the latest NCP and I’ll come back here if any issues
Jenkins
Jenkins2w ago
no 🤣
pANARCHY Server Admin
NCP couldn’t read my player packets, so I’ve gone back to Grim. I seem to have resolved the boat mounting issues this time around. Grim might be the winning ticket!
Error110
Error1102w ago
I've used both vulcan should be used if running a no hack server grim if anarchy No cheat plus I wanna try tbh Ik purity uses it
iRazvan2745
iRazvan27452w ago
Removing spartan will fix the issue lmfaoo

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