Legion Go S overheating in sleep

Hey guys, first off, love your work! I was waiting to dual-boot Bazzite on the LeGo S as soon as I got it from work a couple weeks ago. Anyway, to the point, I updated to ver. F41.20250127 on Tuesday (I installed Bazzite before it got official support) and so far, pretty much everything is running great. However, yesterday an unusual and kinda scary thing happened: While in sleep and plugged to AC, the Legion got extremely hot! The whole system appeared to be in sleep as usual, but it was like the CPU was still running/heating up with no cooling. I’m pretty sure it was the CPU, as I couldn’t even touch the display on the left side due to the heat and I could smell a nasty/burnt smell from the fan exhaust. After trying to wake the Legion up, it fell beck to sleep after a second or two, and eventually the device turned off completely. Did you encounter anything like this before? Maybe on other handhelds? Any way I can help to troubleshoot this? I’m really worried for it happen again and actually damage the device. Thank you!
242 Replies
antheas
antheas4w ago
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3929 join the club. I was hoping to have fixed it by now
GitLab
Legion Go S - EC is chatty during sleep and heats up device after c...
Brief summary of the problem: Due to very likely what is a BIOS bug related to peripherals, the EC of the...
antheas
antheas4w ago
can you try to see if it happens in Windows? no we have not encountered anything like this before
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Interesting! This didn’t happen to me in Win within the 3 weeks I’ve been playing around with the device. If we could confirm it’s a BIOS bug and solidly reproduce it under Windows (I will try), I’m pretty sure I could get the dev team to look into it, as I’m part of the technical support team at Lenovo. Not sure what would they say if it happens only with Bazzite/Arch, as it’s not “officially” supported.
antheas
antheas4w ago
I have been trying to see what is happening the last 2 weeks Well the go s will support Linux eventually so they will have to fix it I'm going to charge in windows too Started it charging and made sure windows turned off the fans
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
I’m sure they will fix it eventually, I’m just wondering whether the OS support will be different for the Win version and the SteamOS version and for now we only have the Win version. So far, it seems they will also have a different model numbers. I’ll try to bring this up to attention anyway.
antheas
antheas4w ago
Thanks. I don't think it will because I have some SteamOS firmware on mine and it installed just fine Don't install that though Stay on 0.0.2.4 Mildly warm, maybe windows is ok
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
“If an external SSD/dock are connected and the device is under load, occurrence is around 90%.” - I do remember having external SSD connected and running Ryujinx. 🤔
antheas
antheas4w ago
It only overheats to the point it smells weird when charging But yes sleep is kind of weird
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Alright, thanks for the confirmation.
antheas
antheas4w ago
No, the device overheating is a liability and something all of us want to avoid. Being cny though will make getting an answer the next week difficult
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Anyway, I’ll have to wait until next week, as now it’s China New Year holiday and basically everyone is off. I was just typing that 😀 From my POV, you are absolutely right!
antheas
antheas4w ago
I already grabbed all logs we can grab. AMD maintainer told me sleep registers look ok and that Lenovo needs to look into it But for now if you charge it while it's awake and turn it off instead of letting it sleep for hours is ok It's annoying but it's ok
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Right. If you could provide me with anything useful you’ve got, I will bring this up to product engineering on Monday.
antheas
antheas4w ago
This link
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Oh, right. Didn’t notice the files somehow. Thanks!
antheas
antheas4w ago
If you use handheld daemon press updates then go to testing New kernel with potential fix
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Was about to let you know that the same thing just happened again even without AC connected, while letting the system sleep overnight (with Ryujinx opened). The battery was at 20% in the morning (had over 80% when put tu sleep), the device was hot and I could hear the CPU working (the clicking/buzzing sound, like when it’s doing computations). Anyway, I installed the test kernel and I’m testing it now. So far, no issue, but I just started. The system is in sleep, with AC connected and Ryujinx opened.
antheas
antheas4w ago
How many watts did you use I think once the ac bug happens it's stuck like that Hopefully with the testing kernel which is also on stable is better
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
65W Lenovo charger … and I always use Balanced TPD, if that helps So far so good
antheas
antheas4w ago
Ok because I thought 33W might be exacerbating things too I might limit it to 30w
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Got it, but I’m going for as quiet as possible experience without sacrificing much of the performance. 15W is quite fine for that so far, but I noticed that e.g. Ryujinx uses 20-25W anyway for whatever reason.
antheas
antheas4w ago
That's normal
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
If you’d like I can test with 33W
antheas
antheas4w ago
15w is the apu power At 33w it uses 46w No keep going on balanced
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
damn, the battery must be terrible then 😬
antheas
antheas4w ago
It would be useful if you can give the ok at low tdps with the new kernel If you wonder what the new kernel is doing, it just wakes it up when you connect the charger
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Will do. For now I’ll keep Balanced, but I’ll also test Quiet over the weekend.
antheas
antheas4w ago
Both are low enough haha
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Interesting. I would assume it had something to do with suspending the processes more properly or something like that.
antheas
antheas4w ago
Everything suspends properly The charging is a bios issue that's caused by not waking up when you plug in the charger Well, hopefully Hopefully part of it not suspending correctly is due to that as well The CPU might not sleep correctly at weird tdps either
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Hm, it sure does wake up now when I connect AC I do remember this on Win as well and I hated that. But if it helps to prevent the issue for now, then so be it I wonder why it happened on battery overnight then I did update to 20250131 stable inbetween the issue occurrences
antheas
antheas4w ago
Maybe it was before you charged it before and it got in a bad state Let's hope Well Microsoft guarantees that that happens now and if the go depends on it it depends on it
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
hmm, might be good to know! Well, thanks for the support so far! I’ll let you know how the testing goes over the weekend.
antheas
antheas4w ago
new build in testing limits to 30W too and i tried to break it and i cant
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
Still nothing on my side with Balanced as well as Quiet modes to my surprise, I’m starting to believe that it really could have been caused by such a stupid thing
antheas
antheas4w ago
lenovo will probably want to do a bios fix, but this is good enough for us if it can take a couple more days
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
So now I’m wondering if there is still anything to fix … or do you mean it would be preferable to not have to rely on waking the system up upon AC connection, which apparently solves this?
antheas
antheas4w ago
this patch will be a bitch to send to the kernel and will merge in half a year the soonest so it will be in a distribution like ubuntu in 2026 valve can of course add sooner, but its an annoying feature nonetheless the easiest way for lenovo right now is to fix the bios if they want to work on other linux distros I got high battery drain last night 46% I want to say Well 46 to 0 Got it again Seems like if it sleeps for more than an hour it happens
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
I unfortunately can confirm, it happend to me twice today as well , while it didn’t happen even once yesterday. However, I did update to “testing-41.20250131.1” this morning! I just reverted back and I’ll let it in sleep overnight, we’ll see…
antheas
antheas4w ago
you dont need to revert stay in the latest just to make sure im gonna leave it sleeping in windows today
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
I’m 100% sure it happens with “testing-41.20250131.1” and it didn’t (to me) with “testing-41.20250131” for the whole day … I just want to confirm this I noticed there’s even newer ver. testing-41.20250201, so I’ll try that tomorrow
antheas
antheas4w ago
i didnt change anything between those versions actually, i did a small change that shouldnt affect anything though feel free to stay on 31 then
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
now that’s weird then let me confirm overnight just to be sure
antheas
antheas4w ago
sure, hopefully yorue right i think it was just the fact it needs an hour or so to start becoming weird so you have to run overnight I think it would be best for you to see if its heating up before you go to bed though instead of letting it drain its battery overnight
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
I thought of checking in the middle of the night, but if your theory of over an hour is right, I just put it to sleep right now and will check in an hour or two I’ll be up at least for another 4 hours, so it should definitely happen before I go to sleep
antheas
antheas4w ago
yup
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP4w ago
shit took about 3 hours of non-stop sleep, but it happend anyway guess i didn’t put it to sleep for long enough yesterday
antheas
antheas4w ago
If that happened in Linux then I guess I have to take a look at my windows unit Been sleeping for 3 hours its fine yea reports normal rip It slept like a baby in windows
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
Yeah, I can confirm, I Iet it sleep in Windows for good 10 hours and nothing Then I updated to “testing-41.20250201” and it already happend twice I can’t help but wonder what exactly is behind the different behavior between Win and Linux the main thing that convinces me that it could be fixed with BIOS is that the original Go (and other Win based handhelds) doesn’t have this issue on the other hand, none of them use the Z2 Go
antheas
antheas3w ago
I am tracking an issue with the Linux kernel missing commands close to after sleep In multiple handhelds In this case it seems it causes this echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/acpi/parameters/ec_no_wakeup testing this command again, we wil ltry to stick it in the kernel tonight
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
I expect to pick up a LeGo S today, let me know if you need more hands for testing.
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
Thanks for all the info. Let me know when I should update and test.
antheas
antheas3w ago
You can run that command We will try to get the kernel updated today but it should be like running that command Lasts until you reboot Our Lenovo contact also created an internal report about it so hopefully we can get it fixed
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
Will do in about an hour when I get home was planning to report this today as well, but the chinese are still off unfortunately
antheas
antheas3w ago
After we update to that kernel you can use an older version for the report
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
im having an issue where I cant wake it from sleep with the powerbutton. Nothing happens, it just keeps blinking is that the same as this one?
antheas
antheas3w ago
you used the command? no, happened once to me has not happened in the last few days make sure you can turn it on with the power button at least most of the time
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
did not try the command yet, figured id wait for the kernel
antheas
antheas3w ago
kernel is done in unstable
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
but will reboot and try it out now, see if it helps
antheas
antheas3w ago
testing kyle is building rn
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
unstable hhd?
antheas
antheas3w ago
no, unstable bazzite they made some changes to how its built
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
ah ok
antheas
antheas3w ago
and tldr is kernel happened to be built there testing broke for some reason
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
i had the wake from sleep issue this morning, even when running the command. What biod version are you guys on? Maybe im behind bios* looks like they havent released any bios revisions yet. Surely one will come soon now after release i will say im positively suprised with the performance of this thing. Eternal Strands runs fine, VRR helps a lot i was bracing for it to be a lot worse
antheas
antheas3w ago
Kernel is in testing
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
nice
antheas
antheas3w ago
Should be in stable too I saw it built
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Yes it's known issue under Linux
antheas
antheas3w ago
I found that at around 30w it's quite stable Above 30 it happens more often I'm testing 25w now There's also this issue. So if it starts overheating power button can also get a bit weird
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
hmmmm I don't think the issue is related to TDP setting though...
antheas
antheas3w ago
I found that at 33w there's a chance when I make it sleep it will just get stuck And not wake up, instantly
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Yes, the device hang due to unknown reason. Under SteamOS, I sometimes cannot put the device into sleep, it will hang at the Steam logo animation
antheas
antheas3w ago
We have custom patch that turns off the screen so I don't know if it gets stuck there Because frozen steam logo is not very nice looking But recently steam had bug where it got stuck before sleep and just got fixed
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
ran the command yesterday evening … the Go S is now sleeping perfectly fine since 7pm (that’s 14hrs by now) 👌 happend to me as well when the overheating in sleep was happening
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
do you know when they addressed the bug?
antheas
antheas3w ago
Yes there are multiple issues together I think 2 days ago Last steam stable But with the no ec wakeup patch that fixes overheating for now and 30w limit I think it's very stable
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
I stuck many times when I put it at performance mode (red light, AC 30W, DC 25W)
antheas
antheas3w ago
Yeah me too but that was when overheating When there is no overheating issue it only happened at high tdps I need to update ui red mode I put as 20w thanks
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Quiet and balanced keep Go 1's setting, but performance mode are higher Custom Mode limit is AC SPL 40/sPPT 43/fPPT 53; DC SPL 33/sPPT 33/fPPT43 we enabled STT mode as default, so if you want to limit the TDP, you should limit the sPPT and SPL
antheas
antheas3w ago
Yes I saw in legion space. Right now we don't have special AC setting and 40 is a lot higher than 33 So I started with 33 but because of sleep fail I limited to 30 Yes we set sppt and fppt
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
OK very nice
antheas
antheas3w ago
Also i like legion l + y 0.0.2.8 firmware making it on the right side not nice 😔
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
@MarshallBeX19 Man if you can report all these issues to project team internally is very helpful for us, I think you are ANZ region CEC, right? yeah, we will give a option in HID spec, let OS/App change the Combine key behavior currently it recognize OS automatically and when in Linux, it will disable some key combines and move legion l's function to legion r
antheas
antheas3w ago
Maybe mark forwarded you my comments. Yes that would be great. I still don't understand how turbo mode works but we want to give the option to users to have On its own Turbo with back buttons
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Pasteq and Pierre-Loup suggest us to change the auto detect from FW to a HID command. Mark Pearson? I didn't see his mail on issues
antheas
antheas3w ago
I think he opened an issue internally for the gitlab issue
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Maybe he issues in their JIRA system but I have no access to it
antheas
antheas3w ago
I don't understand any of that. Firmware command works for me. Hid especially that's great I'd rather have three, one for the power shortcut, one for the rest of the shortcuts and one for the turbo button stuff in the back The last one probably exists already But is not in legion space yet I was playing GTA once and ended up making the whole right half of the controller turbo buttons
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
I will look up to burst mode defination
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
Nope, EMEA Technical Engineer and rest assured, I will do my best! I know Mark, I will get in touch with him about the progress he managed so far on any of this
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
You can send your summary to Elina Zhang who is in charge of communication with Service
MarshallBeX19
MarshallBeX19OP3w ago
I’m planning to get this to development team via product engineering. Seems like Elina is off until the end of the week anyway. Does she know about any of this already or what’s the situation?
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
DM your Lenovo mail and I'll share you a SteamOS repair image, use that and report all issues you encounter. Elina has shared a image to NA region, IDK how about EMEA
antheas
antheas3w ago
As far as bazzite is concerned we have this little bios issue discussed in this thread. Then there are two little cosmetic bios issues and the controller binding issue which you will fix Then, as far as Bazzite is concerned the legion go s integration is done, and we will be doing our standard bug fixes moving forward or working with you if you decide to do custom controller firmware to make sure the migration goes correctly The little cosmetic issues is that currently you can't read if battery conservation is enabled, and you can't disable the powerlight only during sleep You can only disable it when the device is on and off together. Most users want to disable it only during sleep. When that feature was ported to the go s bios you unified the EC var for it We will also merge that kernel driver once it is ready Point being that I expect that most issues encountered in the recovery image won't apply to us
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
It will be added in future BIOS update, we missed these functions. It's through our WMI interface, I will discuss w/ Pasteq about it.
antheas
antheas3w ago
Just do it the same way it was on the original go I think 0x04 was for awake and 0x24 for sleep, now both do both
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
We have common spec with our Laptops, Go S is following the spec, but Go 1 somehow not Maybe there will be some work for you, as the light control behaviour may be different
antheas
antheas3w ago
With the last bios version you switched the spec On the original go
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Yes, V35
antheas
antheas3w ago
Then the go s does both specs But does the same thing in both
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
So it should be OK Yes, they are same
antheas
antheas3w ago
I need to fish up the code. But the problem is users want to be able to turn off the led only when the device is asleep In bios 35 it is possible on the original go On the go s you can only control awake and sleep together
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
Got it, the implements are not same because two ODMs I'll let them follow the Go 1's behaviour
antheas
antheas3w ago
Go has separate ledp ledm If your odm can also make that for the go s that's great You just tell me the bios version and I add a bios check Like I did for the original go
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
So HHD controls these lights directly through EC bit or?
antheas
antheas3w ago
WMI, but it's a bit dirty. WMI drivers are not easy to build Essentially we call the wmi function instead of in the kernel from the program. Like windows We will use pastaqs driver once it's ready
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
got it, I think it will be finished at BIOS V18
antheas
antheas3w ago
Moving forward all wmi stuff like for the claw we will do with kernel drivers. When we did the initial version for the go last February we didn't have a custom kernel
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
we will focus on the heating problem first
antheas
antheas3w ago
I will say it makes it easier though. Communicating with other distribution maintainers to ship patches is difficult Yes Let me know when you have anything or you want help with the wmi driver
xinoassassin
xinoassassin3w ago
thanks a lot! when we have news on Go 2 we will let you guys know, but not through Discord lol
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
just want to chime in and say my suspend/resume basically never works on stable bazzite / stable hhd It suspends fine but pressing the power button does not wake the device i have to keep the button pressed ubtil it shuts off and then do a cold boot
antheas
antheas3w ago
Oh no @Kyle Gospo automatic builds strike again I'm going to stable to check it out Send a bug report from hhd. My unit works fine
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍 ive has the problem with 2 different units now in two days had both a 16g and 32g home https://paste.centos.org/view/856b3634 im going to testing on my device to see if it helps
antheas
antheas3w ago
Update to latest stable first Same unit same ids
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍 Thought i was on latest stable sorry updating and will send another bug report if it happens again
antheas
antheas3w ago
It won't show anything I wanted to see your sku
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
Got it one other small bug I noticed; i cant turn off the controller leds i can change the color but not turn them off outright
antheas
antheas3w ago
Yeah that's fixed already for next ver
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👌
antheas
antheas3w ago
Just lower the brightness to 0
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
check - thx Still happens on latest stable unfortunately its like the power button just doesnt work at all once its suspended. It does its slow blinking to show its suspended, but i cant do anything to wake the device
antheas
antheas3w ago
Does it always happen?
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
almost always had it fail like 9/10 even when it works it seems weird, like it only registers my press after a sec or two
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
dont think its worked a single time on this unit only the 16g one it worked once or twice
antheas
antheas3w ago
That's ok that happens to me Turns out stable is an older kernel Try testing
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍 works on testing 😁 oh no, it just failed on testing same issue had it sleep for a bot longer, like 10 mins and now unable to wake bit
antheas
antheas3w ago
What game are you playing
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
Eternal Strands UE5 i think TDP set to the 20w perf mode (red)
antheas
antheas3w ago
I'll switch to performance too
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍 its the latest protonge btw, if that matters
antheas
antheas3w ago
Damn you jinxed it And I had almost finished a mission Performance mode did the thing
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
sorry 😅 so switching to balanced befor suspend might be a workaround?
antheas
antheas3w ago
use custom 25w
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍
antheas
antheas3w ago
bazzite@bazzite:~$ sudo ryzenadj -i | grep LIMIT Custom 25W
| STAPM LIMIT | 29.000 | stapm-limit |
| PPT LIMIT FAST | 29.000 | fast-limit |
| PPT LIMIT SLOW | 25.000 | slow-limit |
| PPT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-slow-limit |
| TDC LIMIT VDD | 52.000 | vrm-current |
| TDC LIMIT SOC | 13.000 | vrmsoc-current |
| EDC LIMIT VDD | 105.000 | vrmmax-current |
| EDC LIMIT SOC | 17.000 | vrmsocmax-current |
| THM LIMIT CORE | 100.000 | tctl-temp |
| STT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-skin-temp |
| STT LIMIT dGPU | 0.000 | dgpu-skin-temp |
bazzite@bazzite:~$ sudo ryzenadj -i | grep LIMIT Performance
| STAPM LIMIT | 27.240 | stapm-limit |
| PPT LIMIT FAST | 35.000 | fast-limit |
| PPT LIMIT SLOW | 25.000 | slow-limit |
| PPT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-slow-limit |
| TDC LIMIT VDD | 52.000 | vrm-current |
| TDC LIMIT SOC | 13.000 | vrmsoc-current |
| EDC LIMIT VDD | 105.000 | vrmmax-current |
| EDC LIMIT SOC | 17.000 | vrmsocmax-current |
| THM LIMIT CORE | 100.000 | tctl-temp |
| STT LIMIT APU | 40.000 | apu-skin-temp |
| STT LIMIT dGPU | 0.000 | dgpu-skin-temp |
bazzite@bazzite:~$ sudo ryzenadj -i | grep LIMIT Custom 25W
| STAPM LIMIT | 29.000 | stapm-limit |
| PPT LIMIT FAST | 29.000 | fast-limit |
| PPT LIMIT SLOW | 25.000 | slow-limit |
| PPT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-slow-limit |
| TDC LIMIT VDD | 52.000 | vrm-current |
| TDC LIMIT SOC | 13.000 | vrmsoc-current |
| EDC LIMIT VDD | 105.000 | vrmmax-current |
| EDC LIMIT SOC | 17.000 | vrmsocmax-current |
| THM LIMIT CORE | 100.000 | tctl-temp |
| STT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-skin-temp |
| STT LIMIT dGPU | 0.000 | dgpu-skin-temp |
bazzite@bazzite:~$ sudo ryzenadj -i | grep LIMIT Performance
| STAPM LIMIT | 27.240 | stapm-limit |
| PPT LIMIT FAST | 35.000 | fast-limit |
| PPT LIMIT SLOW | 25.000 | slow-limit |
| PPT LIMIT APU | 43.000 | apu-slow-limit |
| TDC LIMIT VDD | 52.000 | vrm-current |
| TDC LIMIT SOC | 13.000 | vrmsoc-current |
| EDC LIMIT VDD | 105.000 | vrmmax-current |
| EDC LIMIT SOC | 17.000 | vrmsocmax-current |
| THM LIMIT CORE | 100.000 | tctl-temp |
| STT LIMIT APU | 40.000 | apu-skin-temp |
| STT LIMIT dGPU | 0.000 | dgpu-skin-temp |
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
that fan really goes at 25w 😂
antheas
antheas3w ago
in custom mode the fan curve is more agressive
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
ah ok
antheas
antheas3w ago
| PPT LIMIT FAST | 35.000 | fast-limit | this is a tad high maybe well thats what i have it set at 30W too though
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
You surely know a lot more about this than I do, but it feels like theres a lot of diminishing returns above 20w (even 15)
antheas
antheas3w ago
thats the case yes
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
using the 25w performance mode I just had i suspend/resume for 20ish minutes no problem custom mode*
antheas
antheas3w ago
performance mode fix is in testing
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
😍 bazzite or hhd?
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo3w ago
Bazzite
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
👍 Can confirm, performance mode now resumes fine on my Go S on latest Bazzite testing. gj!
antheas
antheas3w ago
Newest version made it to stable Should sleep very well. Permanent fix will be bios that will be fixed by lenovo
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
nice! No sleep issues in testing (apart from the usual audio crackle) Do you know if theres a way to disable the annoying vibration when using the trackpad?
antheas
antheas3w ago
Ye reset controller in hhd
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
oh man, awesome, thx im seeing markedly better performance with my device plugged in than when on battery, even at the same tdp. Is that supposed to happen?
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
looks like it specifically only makes a difference in cpu bound scenarios
antheas
antheas3w ago
What tdp I'm pretty sure that all tdp profiles are boosted when plugged in
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
20w perf
antheas
antheas3w ago
Turns out that's 25w that was a typo on my end
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
but raising tdp when unplugged doesnt make a siff diff
antheas
antheas3w ago
Well on custom mode what you see is what you get Up to 33w
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
even on 30w custom it increases fps by 33% to be plugged in
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
i cannot replicate the performance in any way unplugged, not even at highest tdp
antheas
antheas3w ago
Highest tdp turns out is more, next ver it will go up to 40w But at 30w your battery draw is correct You can also try updating the bios, version 17 came out
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
i think something else is going on, how would going from 30-40w tdp give med 30% more fps when 20-30w almost gives nothing
antheas
antheas3w ago
That's true ah
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
oh, i couldnt find any bios updates at lenovos site do you know where i can find it?
antheas
antheas3w ago
Well they started releasing bios versions in linux There's a command for it I can't recall sudo fwupdmgr refresh then something about get-updates
Mads K
Mads K3w ago
alright cool bad look for lenovo in the reviews coming in if they are testing on battery power i ran all available updates through fwupdmgr Same behaviour
antheas
antheas3w ago
ill check it out later
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
good news is it matches my z1e ally in elden ring on performance when plugged in 😍 so i did some digging of my own and I think you are right in that its because tdp is increased when plugged in
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
ryzenadj settings in performance preset on battery
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Mads K
Mads K2w ago
and same profile when plugged in
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Mads K
Mads K2w ago
its just that the fan profile is a lot nicer using the built in preset plugged into the wall than setting a custom 40w tdp is, which basically makes the device take off z2go really needs a lot of power it seems…
antheas
antheas2w ago
not really, they just juiced it to max the perf the tuning is very agressive
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
they did but the fan doesnt go as loud
antheas
antheas2w ago
yes, the caveat with the legion go is that the custom profile has a very agressive fan profile you can setup a custom fan curve for that
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
in hhd?
antheas
antheas2w ago
yes
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
oh that would be awesome i dont care that it runs 10deg hotter
antheas
antheas2w ago
custom profile fan curve is meant to work at 40W for any other tdp its overkill
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
👍 Im on SteamFork rn just to so some testing but afair hhd only allows custom tdps up to 30w is there a way to go to 40?
antheas
antheas2w ago
Yes wait for the next update or choose the overclock option
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
👌
antheas
antheas2w ago
The update isnout How is that Just hasn't been pushed to bazzite yet Maybe it has TDP limit was to prevent lockups that are fixed now
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
got it steamfork is OK, most things seem to work out of the box it depends on some decky loader plugins for hhd functionality it doesnt seem as polished as bazzite + hhd just wanted to test out the charging tdp behaviour on another distro
antheas
antheas2w ago
could have installed simpledeckytdp on bazzite, works fine here too unsure if it is updated for the go s
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
i get some wonky behaviour with it and the built in profiles but it seems to work if you set it to custom tdp mode and then adjust
antheas
antheas2w ago
its not updated for the go s yet there you go
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
i didnt know how often hhd calls ryzenadj and how that would clash with simpledeckytdp
antheas
antheas2w ago
hhd detects simpledeckytdp and disables itself
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
no i had an inkling ah nice 🙂
antheas
antheas2w ago
we dont let you footgun yourself here also hhd does not use ryzenadj it uses lenovo methods
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
interesting
antheas
antheas2w ago
and for other devices an official amd interface its like legion space in an unofficial way simpledeckytdp also supports lenovo methods but has not been updated for the go s, so you ended up with ryzenadj
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
the lenovo methods are “better” or is it to support their built in profiles? One thing that does seem different in steamfork is that waking from sleep responds faster
antheas
antheas2w ago
yes, the power button will light up faster
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
power indicator changes instantly when I press the button yep
antheas
antheas2w ago
thats partly a decision by lenovo here and how we reworked things the powerbutton indicator on the go s lights up when the display turns on
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
ah
antheas
antheas2w ago
but the stock kernel does not support that thats custom on bazzite so it turns on instantly in other distros
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
okay so its custom to bazzite that it waits on the display but why? 😁
antheas
antheas2w ago
mostly it was because it makes a difference when making the device sleep because then it happens instantly
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
ah right
antheas
antheas2w ago
we turn off the display, rgb, and power light instantly did you notice that?
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
not really no im just happy when the display is off and sound stops, dont look at the indicator but i think it makes sense i also always have rgb brightness at 0 so im probably the wrong person to ask 😅
antheas
antheas2w ago
can you comment a bit on that so i know the state of things? as for that, thats the only proper way to do it to not get weird behavior otherwise the EC will fight you and set tdp over you or you will have wrong fan curves
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
yeah got it, so thats essentiallt what I saw when using ryzenadj with the built in profiles for SteamFork controller support was there, suspend/resume worked i could change between the different controllers using a decky plugin audio was fine, gyro was working the fan plugin didnt work for fan adjustment, and as you said simpledeckytdp hasnt been updated either otherwise everything else seemed to work
antheas
antheas2w ago
which one did you use
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
deckyplumber
antheas
antheas2w ago
not the plugin controller
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
ah the hori one
antheas
antheas2w ago
yes that one suspend works rumble doesnt the way they did it did you test gyro?
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
only the values in the calibrator saw it registering yeah rumble probably didnt work, youre right
antheas
antheas2w ago
ok so tldr is controller worked somewhat
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
yep
antheas
antheas2w ago
enough to play with tdp
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
yes just booted up elden and tried to replicate my plugged in perf on battery
antheas
antheas2w ago
how did that go
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
i managed to do it by setting the lego profile to custom and theb using simpledeckytdp up to 40 thats when I noticed I could see the ryzenadj output in the not workkng fan adjustment plugin
antheas
antheas2w ago
ryzenadj will let you go to 40W, the EC has a built in limiter but you are stressing the battery
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
and I saw it upped tdp to 40 when pluggin in on the performance preset
antheas
antheas2w ago
official spec is 33W for battery, down to 20%, then the EC throttles you to around 20W
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
ah okay i saw that happen for sure it went right down i thought i was battling the builtin profiles
antheas
antheas2w ago
well it was you could set tdp again and get it to 40W
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
tbf i sont want even 40w tdp, I just want some more juice to the cpu thats the bottleneck dont*
antheas
antheas2w ago
we are very conservative CPU wise CPU settings in hhd will let you change that you can enable boost and push EPP
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
yeah in most scenarios thats probably good i tried but doesnt beat upping the tdp will experiment some more
antheas
antheas2w ago
if you still have that distro can you do a test for me?
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
bazzite is already installed again, sorry 😅
antheas
antheas2w ago
oh well
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
it seems like the manual fan curve in hhd can only be adjusted up, not down ah sorry didnt see the checkbox
antheas
antheas2w ago
Yes, officially you can only go up from the standard preset But the original go didn't have a limit Lower
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
right doesnt seem like setting it lower actually works why would anyone go up from something thats already so aggressive lol hmm thats interesting, even going custom 40w in hhd i cannot replicate the battery performamce I got ubder steamfork with simpledeckytdp performance on battery rather
antheas
antheas2w ago
Yes bios limits Ryzenadj no bios limit
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
Got it oh man if I set it to quiet profile and go 30w with ryzenadj its perfect i get almost plugged in performance and the fan is really quiet, temp around 80deg but i guess once simpledeckytdp starts using the official lenovo api that will no longer work :/
antheas
antheas2w ago
It lets you choose If you ask me though You want to do this stuff return it and buy another device
Mads K
Mads K2w ago
which one?

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