Energy Crate Chances
For the Robux Energy Crate, it says +4.8%, not x4.8%. This obviously interprets to adding a 4.8% to the 0.1% chance of getting a mythical weapon out of the energy crate. Thus making this a 4.9% chance of getting a mythical weapon out of an energy crate, so almost 1 in 20 out of the Robux energy crates. However, I know this game is shady and greedy as fuck, so I wanted to know if this is actually true, or if its 0.001x+0.048, if so that is flat out a lie and is clearly an attempt to manipulate the community.
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it's not a lie, it's just not additive, it's multiplicative
how do you check the chances?
Looks like a + sign to me
the + sign doesn't mean anything here
Damn so why did they put it there
because it's a 4.8% increase to your luck
Okay so
the original luck is 0.1%
Must have been a mistake by the developers, I think they meant multiply by 4.8%!
"multiply by 4.8%" yeah i'm outta here
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the base chance can be represented as 100% in which the luck multiplier is 100% + 4.8% = 104.8%
is it really that hard to understand
If the original luck is 0.1%, and they have a giant sign on the front of the box that a says +4.8%, I would think most people would say it is just simply adding like it says on the box.
If they said it was 4.9% of 0.1 that would be more understandable, once again just a simple mistake by the devs, I'm sure they didn't mean it.
If you spend 20,000 Robux on some dead games pay to win crates, most people would expect the pity to go a lot more up than from 0.1 to 0.1049
if you expect drop rates to increase that dramatically, you have no one to blame but yourself
though i admit that the playerbase for this game can definitely be susceptible to stupidity like so
If I open a Robux Energy Crate, how much will the pity increase per crate?
I opened about 10 and I'm almost at 5% so, its around 0.5%.
According to you that would translate to 0.0005%
nope, according to me that would be 0.005%
that is how it is
Okay so
that is how it will be
it would take you 19980 crates to get to 100%?
i'll get back to you with the proper math in just a moment
because your math is way off
Alright, thank you
like vastly
yup that's not how it works
You just said each crate increases your pity by 0.005
have you never done math?
Okay, Im clearly not getting something here. Lets see your math then ig :Shrug:
do you know how division with a negative number works
Look, you said each crate is equivalent to a 0.005 increase, so I took that and added it until I got to 100%
And I mean a 100% chance of you actually getting the item
not a + 100% increase of pity
yeah that's not how probability works in math
Can you do the math then please?
a 100% increase in the multiplier is 500 boxes since it increases by 0.2% per crate
anyways let me do the proper math
Ight
also reaching a true 100% chance is not possible
Im well aware of that.
anyways i'm not doing any graph shit so this'll be messy but it'll get the point across
You dont need to its just adding really
so these numbers aren't accurate
it's not adding
you'd need to define a curve to account for the increase in probability per crate
and i am not pulling out a graph calculator, fuck that shit
that won't work
would need a proper calculator like a TI-nspire CX CAS II
used to have one but i don't have one anymore
no longer in any engineering shit so it's useless to me
So the current chances of getting the item is 0.1
If you open 500 cases, the pity is now 100%, which translates to the item being a 0.2 chance of getting
pulled up the correct formula and needless to say i'm not doing this shit so it'll be crude
unless you want to do this one
i am not touching that
too much effort for me
right now
Ill solve it give me a second hold on
AI will come in real handy
probably shouldn't have AI do that math
What could possibly go wrong
Just gives me alot of random numbers
do you know how to read that equation
what'd it give you
0 . 5 9 3 4 0 3 0 3 4 0 2 5 0 4 0 0 9
My point is, is that the pity increases so little, its impossible to notice without spending hundreds of thousands of Robux.
The best and easiest thing you could do is ask a lot of people who got mythic how many cases it took them and average it out.
fucking done
If someone got it from lets say, 20 Robux crates then, Multiply the answer by 20 if you want to translate that to in game money crates
you'll reach 95% probability of a mythical at approx. 320 attempts
aaaand what's that
like uh
128k robux i think
you're welcome
can we call it quits now
Then how the hell did someone spend 600,000 Robux and didnt get anything
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the rates have changed at some points
perhaps that was when the rates were at their lowest
This is with Robux cases right?
yes
So 6400 Normal crates
yeah the normal crates are mega scuffed
32,000,000 cash :stare:
i'm not sure what the increase is per crate on normals
640,000 kills
let me check
Oh my god its worse I forgot they increase way less too
it's 0.12% per crate for credits cases
let me do the math for credits cases while i'm at it
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ahhahahahahahaahahahahahahahah
there's no way
?
i must've fucked up hold on
this can't be right
Spit it out
wait
let me double check
i have to have had fucked up
okay
you'll reach 95% probability at 8713 boxes opened
43,565,000 cash
871,300 kills
good game, very f2p friendly
that's a fair few kills considering this:
gotta hit 888 four times over
good game
Dude its not even pay to win nobody can afford that
its just a cash grab, a scam cooperation
128k robux? it's not that much
That is a full gaming computer
oh yeah totally
On a digital sword
but most people with that kind of robux make it through UGC sales or experiences
now this has me wondering whether i should drop 128k on getting a mythical
probably not worth it since that's better off devexed
Dont do it lmao, I didnt know how to see the actual chances because they are so well hidden.
I wasted like 15,000 on it (which is a ton for me)
anyways nice nice
very productive thread
Would you say your good at the game or nah, cause there are levels of max levels, some are way better than others
i'm good enough
i don't do any competitive things but i do win most of my fights and that's enough for me
You gotta teach me how to play gang Im not that good
Do you know the chances of getting it from AFK rewards? I actually have a friend who did.
the afk rewards one is a temporary one anyways
but i don't know
Are you on CW rn
not rn
Could you show me some ingame tips when ur on?
no
Chances of getting it in the AFK place are the same as credit cases. (0.001%) But with no luck scales or boosts.
@nismo i fucked up the math
it's fixed now though
i didn't account for apparently the robux case capping at +100% and creds at +600%
100% chance of getting it or, 100% increase 0.2%?
Credits would be a maximum of a 6x increase?
robux case max chance 0.2% and credits 0.007%
2,247 straight days of playing combat warriors, assuming in that time you can get 4,500,000 kills.
good game
very reasonable.
Infact I think its too easy
tell the devs to buff that
Akso by the way
Robux case starts out as (0.1%)
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It also says it is 20x more common than the normal case
yeah that's just a flat out lie
lol
Bro is that not illegal š
it might be. not sure.
Ight well, either way
Going off of that, the base chance on the normal case is 0.005
Maximum is 0.03% at 600%
This if true, would violate, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) Regulations (United States), State Consumer Protection Laws (United States), EU Consumer Protection Laws, Loot Box-Specific Regulations(no idea wtf this is), and Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) lmao
I forgot Civil Fraud my bad
its ok man
you do not need a mythical this bad
I do
We all do
I remember that (Without any luck scaling, boosts, etc), you would need approximately 1000 Robux crates (300000 R$ or 3k USD$) to according to statistics get a "guaranteed" mythic
This could be wrong tho, since swen fucked up the crate system and wasn't very clear about it
But that's the closest I could get
They should really add a expensive, but still a flat price.
100k aether
100k aether is nothing
ok level 888 not everybody is there yet
actually 10k aether took me like 2 weeks
the price still needs to be in a decent range
This thread was fun to read ong
Anyways this made me realise how lucky I was, got 2 mythics in 800 crates ong
the point is them not being accesible for everyone
and then you beg for a mythical š