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iTeachChemā€¢3mo ago
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SHM

How would you even go about this one šŸ’€šŸ™
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperā€¢3mo ago
@Gyro Gearloose
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helperā€¢3mo ago
Note for OP
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Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Show us what you've tried, na?
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
Bhai kuch as such idea nahi lag raha But one thing that did cross my mind is When the support would move down would there not be slack in the string? That's one thing The other that came was when the support would move up, would there be a pseudo force on the bob? Would the small amplitude of the oscillations cause any pseudo force at all?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
,rotate
TeXit
TeXitā€¢3mo ago
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Hmm..Wierd question.
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
I did a lot of approx and got Ļ‰(resultant) = āˆš99
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Angular frequency won't be constant na?
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
nah dude option hi nahi hai
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Unless you parametrise and grind trig, you won't get anything I think.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
Trigonometry:??? idhar??? how??? where??? why????
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
....it's SHM . There is always trig.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
sabse pehle to why????
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ig they are just asking the order maybe of the change but idk
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
valid
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Wait, is this a spring pendulum by chance? Might simplify it if all oscillations are in the same direction.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
nope simple pendulum given in question simple pedulum
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Oh yeah
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
....I ain't trig bashing this
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Is the answer 10^-1?
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
nah dude
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ah. What is it?
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
1 10^-3 reverse engineering the problem ??
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ah wait yeah... This basically
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
but order me unit thodi daalenge
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
...what?
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
har option rad/s me hai plus order ke questions me order daal dete hai na?? OH OH GAWHDAAMN I JUST CHECKED OUT THE SOLUTION DUDE ERROR ANALYSIS
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Send soln.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
bhai aapne kara kya hai šŸ’€
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Basically (heavily questionable) but effective gravity ka concept
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
again they make shit solutions but yea
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ah it was fractional change..
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
i see i see haa yaar ye to idea aaya bhi nahi ki ho sakta hai ye šŸ’€ but idhar
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Actually omega won't be defined tho for such a condition as it is no longer an SHM maybe
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
w kiska hoga?? of support or bob??
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Pendulum (Bob)
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
It is, just not simple to express.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
goteem
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
It is just a composition of an angular and a linear SHM This is your equation.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
intresting
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
It's just a whole ton of trig bashing.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Wait the angular one gets affected by the linear one no>
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
achaha one question in this
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
It can be split into two oscillations along axes.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
r vector ko aapne sin(10t) , 1-cos(10t) likha hai
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
One is simple, one is a composition.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
1-cos(10t) kaha se aaya
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Assume downward is positive. length-height That's your y from origin
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
Ohhhh okok
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Key word being angular, pendulum goes (tho very little) but a vertical distance too right?
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Yeah, that's why there's the 1-cos term. In the FOR of moving origin, the pendulum is in regular SHM. Oh wait
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
With time variable gravity? And non constant omega?
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Omega becomes time variable. Crap.
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
im lost atp what are yall going on about šŸ’€
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
In combi of 2 shms, shm we get only in certain cases iirc. When omega for both combi is same or smth right?
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Or integral multiple
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Not integral multiple also ig.
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Ye nvm. No, it'll be SHM for certain moments i feel, that's about it.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
That would just give some zig-zagish oscillatory shape Like sort of sine curvish maybe? But anywho, question mein omega is non constant so maybe controversial šŸ¤”
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
nah more like a one sec
Opt
Optā€¢3mo ago
Yeah let's stay out of it
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
nah chodo nahi ban raha anyhow thanks yall ok i feel dumb question but delta g 2Aw^2 kaise hai?
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ig this is what they intended. (Order is 10^-3)
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flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
got it thanks ....
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
Ig they are talking about the maximum change in g, which is (g+w^2A)-(g-w^2A)
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
if im interpreting this right
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
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flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
The change is as such right? Just confirming this stuff I want my concept to be as hard as Cabo Fibah
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacā€¢3mo ago
w^2A is verical.
Dexter
Dexterā€¢3mo ago
mains when they try to act smart smh Sawaal aisa banao ki samjh hi nahi aaye karna kya hai
flower
flowerOPā€¢3mo ago
ohhh from the support ka oscillations?? +solved @SirLancelotDuLac @Opt
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