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iTeachChemβ€’2d ago
Nimboi

Acidity of hydrogen

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iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
@Dexter
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iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
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Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
The answer is H(c) > H(d) > H(a) > H(b) The Hc makes sense
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
ok let me guess HC > HD > HA > HB i did not see ans
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
yeah
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
is this correct
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
yeh
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
ok so Hc yk for Hd its scond degree so a bit unstable but resonance
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
my confusion is between Ha and Hb
iTeachChem
iTeachChemβ€’2d ago
why hd> ha?
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
triple bond carbon is eneh eneg so it will relive HA and HB
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
reso
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
but Hb is 2nd degree so less stable so Ha> HB
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
Hb has resonance tho
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
C B D A?
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
CDAB
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
A yes Ok Alkyne is more stronger
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
wait a sec
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
alkyne is weakly acidic yes but B has resonance why is it last
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
now i am a bit confused
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
sem
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
yes
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
so why A>B
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
ok i think i get it
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
isnt resonance the big daddy gigachad effect
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
He understands it now chat
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
brain expansion
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
in all resonance structure of B it will be second dgree and second degree is unstable for carbaanion only explantion i can think of thats why Hd is first it will resonate with oxygen not with ring i think
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
Man i hate aise sawaal
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
does that matter? that's never a factor i've considered before
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
ngl
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
its very qualitative
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
that does matter second degree is very unstable for carbaanaion
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
aise toh every carbocation and carbanion will be second degree in a benzene ring resonating structure then resonance shouldn't really be such a stabilizing effect innit
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
wait u are right i am confused again wtf
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
:sadge:
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
😭
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
hmmm but Acetylene is more acidic than
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
ping me also when ans
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
toulene
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
why on earth
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
general order man lemme check it once
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
yeh thoda sensen't
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
yes pka of acetylene is lesser than Tolune hence more acidic
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
wtf dawg πŸ’€ what's the reason lemme look it up
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
😭😭dude 3 degree carbocation ki Electronegativity is 3.25 thats more Electronegative than nitrogen and chlorine
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
thats why i say organic is doodoo only way to win is to become mahoraga and adapt to every shitty shit
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
i guess yahi reason hoga
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
that's pretty cool actually but R E S O N A N C E
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
Mahoraga got cooked by sukuna first and gojo second
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
this seems like an exception to remember
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
so we're not cooking organic
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
we will also get cooked by mains first and adv second
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
organic is cooking us yes
Gamertug
Gamertugβ€’2d ago
i am getting cooked on the first day ok i go not much time
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
ill keep this thread open for sometime to see if i can get a more satisfying explanation on why acetylene is more acidic than toluene, or if its just an exception to remember
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
idk man 😿its like Alcohols are more acidic than toulene same reason ig. -ve charge is more stable on more Electronegative atom i guess yahi reason hona chahiye
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
+1
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
thats the most i can think off
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
okay fair hi lancelot
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Hi.
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
goat
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
do u have anything new to contribute
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
give us heed
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
head*
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
us peasants need yo 😭😭😭
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Nope I think that's pretty much all the orgo I learnt.
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
alright then lmao 😭
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
sus
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
should i mark as solved
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacβ€’2d ago
Heed 😭
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
@Dexter watch us get banned
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
😭😭
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
anyway
Dexter
Dexterβ€’2d ago
Yes πŸ—£οΈπŸ—£οΈ
Nimboi
NimboiOPβ€’2d ago
+solved Dexter
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iTeachChem Helperβ€’2d ago
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