Alternative to Tebex
Me and the owner have a server that’s currently running on Tebex but it doesn’t really support more modern versions of Minecraft with sponge, what would be a good modern alternative?
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are you running a sponge vanilla server?
no, sponge modded
[neo]forge?
or fabric
pretty certain its forge
yeah, forge
you could probably pay someone to port https://github.com/tebexio/Tebex-Minecraft to your version of forge and/or sponge
I wrote a long thing over here about why sponge isn't amazing https://discord.com/channels/348681414260293634/1321962151048511539/1321994499886678046 from a developer's perspective. Although arclight (and other bukkit + forge solutions) do have issues, they're a lot more stable these days. The quality of Bukkit plugins just tends to be higher than sponge plugins as well
we originally used arclight and had so many issues so we swapped over to a different hoster of which i dont remember the name of
it would crash 3-4 times a day to no avail, and support couldn't help
I think its apex that we're on now but i could definitely be wrong
if you're able to compile stuff on your own, you can try to compile https://github.com/AlphaConqueror/Tebex-NeoForge/tree/NeoForged
we're on craftlands hosting
we were able to drop tebex by coding our own website to talk to the server instead. undercut them fs
maybe you can find someone with a similar skill set
https://craftingstore.net also exists, they claim to have sponge support, but idk what version of sponge they support
Azuriom, it’s a full website suite that includes a shop plugin. Free and open source, you can use RCON to hook it to the server.
Thank you three for the input! It’s been a lot of help and shed a lot of light on how horrible tebex is and what alternatives we can port to :)
https://minestorecms.com/ - my project
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^ looks cool imo
tebex is by no means terrible btw
good chargeback protection costs money
they don't have good charge back protection tho
Id rather do it myself
Ive never heard of issues with it but maybe thats just me
^^^
100% chargeback protection is pretty good to me what
There is a method to take down a server's store for one to two whole months.
dont see hypixels store going down
maybe there is but i havent seen it /shrug/
Yeah but no, it isn't that, they'll lock your account or take funds from you if you get too big chargebacks
never seen that happen interesting, their policy says the exact opposite aswell
Ok
I have had that happen to me
going through tebex support to get my store unlocked took around a month
chargeback taking money from you or the "method"?
odd considering they are a MOR (tebex) so should handle all chargebacks etc (and then they have their policy that states they handle all chargebacks and just pay out of pocket)
im not sure what "the method" is
^^
but what happened was a customers credit card company detected tebex as fraud and charged back for him, tebex protected this, but in return our store was shut down
and then we had to go through tebex support to get it back up
tebex is still best imo, but that wasnt a great experience
Just use stripe 😊
Stripe Checkout + Radar is the golden ticket
golden ticket? as in
the solution that'll work for 99.999999% of your usecases
i was actually kind of joking since with stripe checkout only you will get charged money when there's a chargeback
radar is very effective sure
i wonder how tebex offers full chargeback insurance without losing very large amounts of money 🤔
Stripe chargeback protection is 0.4% of your sale
Annual limit of like 20,000-25,000 depending on currency exch
yeah but what about tebex
they offer full protection
so it seems very impossible
tebex is literally just taking standard stripe chargeback protection and adding their own fees onto
sure they'll possibly use some of their own filtering for cards they've seen before inhouse to reduce the reliance on stripe but ultimately they're a stripe house
Life is strange, chargebacks are fightable
I really like how markus's system handles them because there are precaution checks, confirmation of the purchase in-game to help prevent false charges & it generates a pdf of evidence for you to send to a payment processor in the case you do get a charge back
We have some stats about efficiency of the fighting chargeback tools and 92% of all chargebacks were won (starts with 3.0 update).
nice
isnt even a won chargeback a loss though
markus?
no?
are you fucking blind
@xMarkus == markus
yes
OH 🤣
do you not pay a chargeback fee
man go lighter on me
i'm sick as fuck
not if you win an appeal
Iirc
Stripe says otherwise iirc but not sure
tbf id rather take a fee than lose all the money
Stripe's chargeback fee is $15 per dispute. They won't refund the fee if you win a chargeback
Cost of business
What is the Stripe Chargeback Fee & Is it Reversible?
Stripe charges an irreversible $15 chargeback fee per dispute. Keep reading to learn why they charge this fee and how to prevent disputes.
what im more worried abt in the case of chargeback protection isnt losing the purchase money
Mine store CMS has things to prevent transactions going through that are sketchy
its having 20 small purchases get charged back and oop there goes $300
fair enough
Yeah that doesn't make you safe with tebex tho
but thats the use case i think tebex is useful for
When you had your money taken from your wallet on tebex from a chargeback were you following the seller protection guidelines?
why not
no not me, this is from private MC server owner chats
I see the horror stories of I got a 4k charge back and now my wallet is locked
4k in game or 4k worth of cb fees
Investigation of a chargeback on a 4k order is normal no??
no?
cause honestly their fault if they be charging people 4k for mc shit
bad take
what if he was selling owner
no lmao
Against Eula
what if i was joking
is that also against the eula
Yes
id bet anything being sold for 4k is against eula too lets be real
no?
$4000 for owner is a pretty good deal if you ask me
nobodys buying cosmetics for 4k
hahahah you are very wrong
source: I own a server
youre selling shit for $4000?
and single people have spent 4k for cosmetics?
No, way more
well
over the years is different than a single purchase
thats what we meant 😭
you cant chargeback "over the years"
No it's not a single 4k transaction
Yes you can
exactly
can you cb years old transactions?
thats different
pretty sure thats just not a thing
hey, yes i have been consistently buying from this company for 5 years, yes i want to chargeback all of it
yep
if anything thats likely to get your chargeback denied extremely easily
that cant be a thing
Nope I've seen it work
ive never seen anything more than half a year
Stripe says the normal is 120
Normal what
120 days for chargeback
As in how long you have
Oh great
Wonder if I can force stripr
but yeah id rather have to deal with tebex beauracracy than eat 3k in cb fees
I don't agree
Just leaving it at that
id probably like stripe more if you could just enable their .4% thing at any time
Wdym
you need approval
Professor pays like 2.9% + 30 cents with it on
3.3% id think
wtf
And thats for domestic cards
unless he has a custom deal with stripe
its .4% on top of the 2.9%
almost $1 of fees for $20 is wild
Wild, so only 1.7% less than tebex but with chargeback fees?
Not counting the flat fee
i thought tebex charged their fee on top of the processing fees
Not sure
you have heard my warnings, if you choose to ignore them, suffer
pretty sure they take the full 5%, not the difference between the 5% and the 2.9%
Not what i meant
what do you mean then
u said 1.7% less than tebex but its not
on tebex to my knowledge first stripe takes their 2.9% + 30c then tebex taxes 5% on whats left
so its actually a good bit cheaper
I forgot the stripe section in the first place*
On tebex
lmao
that is a bit silly
i mean doesnt stripe also only cover a max of 25k tho
you need more than 25k income in a year as a server
if u got players spending 4k and chargebacking years of purchases i guess losing like 2k on cb fees isnt a big deal but i think youd eat 6k to the cb protection if you used stripe thing
which is unfortunate
idk im just a chargeback fee hater
afaik, mollie.com has better conditions when we speak about chargebacks
you have documents to provide in case of any chargebacks or refunds
i had some issues with a guy that tried to refund over $500 and I provided just minestore’s documents and I’ve won the dispute
Well , then I guess you don't know how to sell inside your server.
:jujij:
i dont run one silly billy
i guess i just overestimated the intelligence of humans
anyway I can tell you from my own experience that a minecraft server can generate more than 5k $ per month
completely different metric than what i was saying but ok
@Miv We operate a merchant of record same as tebex. We only recently started moving into minecraft but have a dev who understands minecraft wrote out our plugins for many different versions of minecraft.
Feel free to check it out here: https://discord.com/channels/348681414260293634/1334223066053607434/1334223066053607434
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how do you handle pci compliance?
will you provide a copy of certifications on request or is it something thats hidden on the website
we are PCI SAQ A compliant, we can provide a certification on request, we do not store any sensitive card details