Overcoat Rec/ Guidance - Spier and Mackay
Considering Gray Herringbone Overcoat - need guidance on nuances regarding these three options:
(1) https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/light-gray-herringbone-belted-overcoat-9643-sbb1
(2) https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/charcoal-herringbone-9644-bmc1
(3) https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/gray-herringbone-liberty-coat-9664-bgc1
Questions:
(1) How do the first and second option differ - one is labelled overcoat, and the other balmacaan. To my untrained eye, both look the same. Need views on which one would be more versatile across casual and dress situations.
(2) Option 3 looks too ornate to me - but open to suggestions if this one would be more "stylish" compared to first and second. I know it's subjective, but looking for general consensus.
(3) Any other options I should consider for around the same budget (available in Canada).
Would certainly appreciate further inputs/ considerations to keep in mind while buying an overcoat. Thanks!
Light Gray Herringbone Belted Overcoat | SPIER & MACKAY
Spier & Mackay
Charcoal Herringbone Balmacaan | SPIER & MACKAY
Spier & Mackay
Gray Herringbone Liberty Coat | SPIER & MACKAY
Spier & Mackay
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I'm not going to be much help here, but a balmacaan is a type of overcoat so you shouldn't be surprised they are similar. The sleeve cut looks slightly different near the shoulder but I agree they are very very similar options.
Thanks!
Personally, I actually like #3 but it's likely because I'm just not a fan of belted overcoats b
First two do look a bit more versatile to me, the latter a bit dressier.
Yes, same here, find the third one dressier. l Just find the lapels slightly wider for my taste, but can't be sure without trying it on.
Yeah, agree on the lapels. They definitely aren't terrible, but it was the weak point for me on that too.
Thanks! Good to know that I am not being too picky on one aspect.
tbh I wouldn't call any of these dressy, but that's an issue for online fashion nerds and doesn't really matter in the real world
I like either of the belted ones. all 3 would work with a suit, but the belted ones would look better with like a graphic tee and jeans, for example.
Haha, yeah, I've realized it's a rabbit hole once you start researching specific pieces
Coincidentally, derek guy did a thread on Overcaots today https://x.com/dieworkwear/status/1877893764964094001
Rarely need to wear a suit. Was just trying to understand if there is any fundamental difference between the first two (besides fabric weights) - since Spier & Mackay classifies one in a totally different section vs. other Overcoats. Thank you, as always!
the different fabric weights also affect how prominent the herringbone pattern is
2 might also have a throat latch but the biggest distinction is in the warmth; i like both tie belt options but your tolerance for cold will probably dictate which you pick
Thanks
For colder weather (-5C and below or windchill) - parka remains a safe and convenient bet. Looking for something that I can wear for remaining months.
Will look to add a zip cardigan or a vest for added warmth
what would you wear it with? -5C hits different if you're wearing three things underneath vs just a t-shirt
With Parka, anything more than a shirt/ t-shirt (+ light sweater) is too warm
i generally favor lighter weight stuff and then layer stuff as needed (sport coat, sweater, shirt, etc) but that's a personal preference
thanks, yes, that's what I feel will work for me as well
usually run hot both indoors and outdoors when walking
hence try to minimize on wearing thick layers
what would be your recommended layering for the above coats
Usually wear zip cardigans indoor at work, but would like to have a windproof layer/ vest
which allows me to keep the coat unbuttoned whenever possible
aesthetically or for thermoregulation
would appreciate options for both
lol
can't think beyond a fleece vest or zip cardigan
both do a very poor job of breaking the wind obviously
in part because they're being worn under an insulating layer
an insulated vest would likely be the most efficient in terms of layering
Admittedly, yes. Usually have worn these under down or sythetic insulation only.
So ideal layer I am looking for is something that looks "dressy" once the coat is removed indoors (heated spaces).
aesthetically depends on context; double jacket works well, sweater is obvious, hoodie could work if it's a casual fit
And hence not too warm as well for indoor use
Thanks!
Really appreciate it
Would a quilted vest like this be appropriate item to layer under an overcoat? Specially when the coat is worn unbuttoned.
https://www.altitude-sports.com/products/barbour-new-lowerdale-quilted-gilet-mens-llll-bar-mgi0245#?style=Sage
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The other option being ultra light down from Uniqlo (not sure if it would hold in winds though) https://www.uniqlo.com/ca/en/products/E472294-000?colorCode=COL09&sizeCode=SMA004
"appropriate" in terms of temperature depends on how warm the vest is but probably yes (similar to layering with barbour waxed jackets)
"appropriate" in terms of "will people judge me?" depends on how much you care about people's opinions
same thing with the uniqlo vest; high down is probablt warmer, up to you to decide if that's worth it
Appropriate as in shouldn't look out of place. Mostly have noticed people wearing sweaters/ hoodies under coats.
so this then
Got it, thanks
Yes, somewhat I guess
if you think it looks cool and will keep you warm wear it
people either a) don't give a shit, b) would like the fit or c) would judge you solely based on your clothes in which case fuck them
haha
Great and universal advice