Wide pants fit
I’ve been looking at this from Blurhms and I’m wondering if it makes sense to size up on them. I’ve never bought big pants before so not sure if over sizing is common. I’m looking for a floating silhouette that let the pants swish as I walk, but that doesn’t look “crumbled” because they are too long. If that makes no sense let me know and I’ll try to clarify!
https://havenshop.com/products/blurhms-brushed-twil-belted-trousers-black-fw24
blurhms Brushed Twill Belted Trousers Black | HAVEN
Wide belted trousers made from brushed twill fabric, featuring a tapered silhouette and integrated waist belt. Comfortable and refined. Made in Japan.
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upsizing can be done for sure but with big pants if they are cut to be big and flowy they shouldnt need to be sized up at all
all of my big pants fit normal at the waist
also on the swishy part, thats going to come down mainly to fabric
the pants you posted are a cotten that to me looks like its going to be stiffer. IMO for swishy the goat is wool
Ah that’s a good point re:fabric, I’ll narrow my search for that. Thank you!
In my mind wool is kinda formal looking, I guess because I associate it with suiting. Do you by chance have some good suggestions for more textury material or casually cut wool pants?
probably but a budget would be helpfull there
my favorite are my wool linen silk EK 2 pleats but they are uhhh
I think wool pants can be styled down depending on the complimentary pieces
also this
fabric matters but styling is a big piece
I def get your apprehension but here’s a few fits of mine with some nonnative wool pants.
Budget for cotton would have been around 500 cad. Though honestly what got me looking was Lemaire twisted pants which a) are not wool and b) don’t seem especially flows and c) are obviously over that amount. I can be pretty flexible up to say double that amount if the material is more expensive or (of course) if I do decide to cop on Lemaire
these are also all the same black wool pants
wool is great for drape but it's not really swishy. If you're looking for active movement you'll need viscose/poly for that.
also be sure you know your JP size, my first pair from blurhms were wayyy too small for me even though the waist measurement looked good
Thanks for the advice all!
Hmm didn’t know that about synthetics
While both fits look great, I think I’m going for a style more similar to @oman121 ‘s relative @tman916 . Also why are your names so similar? Coincidence or big pants conspiracy?
Have you ever seen me or oman121 in the same room? 🤔
Not even once!
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Two Pleat Pant Wool Linen Silk Twill Loden
Evan Kinori's signature, wide fitting, high waisted trousers cut from a dry, densely woven, linen/wool/silk twill in a deep loden brown-grey with a subtle slubbiness from the raw silk yarns. Feature a button fly, pleats at the waist, a notched "Hollywood" waistline, front slash pockets, and flap closure rear welt pocke
these are the exact pants im wearing
Awesome, thank you. Definitely expensive but I can see why
yeah ek is very pricy, great stuff but there probably cheaper alternatives for a similar pant
Universal Works might be a good brand to check. Def gonna have less interesting fabrics though.
@oman121 , do you by chance know how to articulate the effect of mixing cotton and wool like so? https://www.shopneighbour.com/collections/evan-kinori-mens/products/evan-kinori-mens-two-pleat-pant-yarn-dyed-wool-cotton-olive-melange
Neighbour
Two Pleat Pant Yarn Dyed Wool Cotton Olive Melange
The widest of Evan Kinori’s pants, the Two Pleats have a generous wide leg that sits just above the ankle with a slight crop; this edition is cut from a plush, yarn dyed, Japanese wool/cotton twill in an olive melange. Feature two pleats at the waist, a button fly with button closure, front slash pockets, flap closure
in this case it ends up pretty drapey in a good way because its primarily wool, but its less flowy because the wool is more like a flannel to me its thicker.
ive felt this one in person
it depends a lot on weave and how its proceeded.
Got it, thanks
How does this compare in terms of drape relative to the one you shared?
its for sure a little stiffer than my pair
softer and less stiff than a full cotten
but not quite where mine or a full wool gab would be
Is there an inverse relationship between drape and active flow or is it possible to have high amounts of both?
…. Super nerdy way of asking that question
it's possible, and i think more common in womenswear where pleated synthetic pants are more common
these are a wool-poly-rayon women's pant from jones new york. the overall width is high in a way that doesn't convey in pictures but the fabric has little structure and more swish
Got it thanks! I really like the second photo! think the silhouette that resonates most is still Oman’s EK linen/silk blend
(just to add more examples)
the black pants here are 100% wool, heavyweight and they drape nicely but they don't move much. The cream colored pants are a lightweight viscose/poly blend and they drape really well at rest, and have a ton of swishy movement while in motion
caldwells still live rent free
im getting a pair when that site opens back up
You should check out the fatigue caldwells too. Same cut but a bit heavier and thicker.
That cream one is really nice! How does one walk with pants so much longer than one’s legs and without getting them dirty from your shoes?
thanks! and yeah u don't, they just get dirty and then u wash em
Ah
https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/jan-jan-van-essche/black-o-project-washed-dense-cloth-easy-wide-trousers/16561101?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAhP67BhAVEiwA2E_9g8g6XSg7tklMUMcge9rvWLvA8UM2didMZ3AImAp2lrGXGiIlRv3LNhoCUnAQAvD_BwE got those recently and I think they qualify in the motion category
Neat!
Any recs for $100-200 range?
harvesty's circus pants come to mind but you'll have to find a way to get them from japan (website is in japanese, or you can use a proxy) https://harvesty.stores.jp/?category_id=58d385d302ac64de9d000a86
theyr're more rigid but HUGE and also short so check the measurements if you like hem; they are "intended" to be worn like how casey, stevie or mooses (narrow version) manage, but if you have a long pelvis/legs it'll be cropped (me)
Nice
My normal inseam is about 26 so “cropped” is usually just “don’t need to go to the tailor” length on me
you would not have a problem with those then - they're closer to a chino fabric so no real swish but they hold their shape incredibly well
Nanamica and The North Face Purple Label's upcoming season are a couple brands worth looking into as well, especially second hand.