learning about pants
here's an example of pants that i own: pacsun cargo baggy medium size
another one, baggy eco black jeans, is size 31x32 and also has a similar size for that measurement
is that normal? at what height am i meant to wear these pants?
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the other one is slightly shorter, if this is 12.5 that one's 12
when i try to wear it up higher (or any pants for that matter), it just slides down till it reaches the normal (or abnormal) position
even though im fat
I'm having a hard time with this photo - are you trying to measure the rise here?
If so, open the pants and measure just from the crotch seam point to the top of the waistband
Your tape measure right now is offset slightly and looks like it goes below the crotch
If you want fit feedback on these, you're better off sharing photos of what they look on you as well - full body shot with maybe a tee tucked in so we can see where they fall
There is no single height to rise measurement because everyone's body is different, but there are a lot of shorter folks who look great in high rise pants so it doesn't really matter all that much, if it looks good it looks good. Inseam is a bigger consideration for height but is usually a pretty simple adjustment by a tailor
here's an example of the jeans i was talking about
this is the height at which i usually wear my jeans (5ft 6in)
i cant tell if i'm supposed to be wearing pants (in general) higher or lower than this
Rise, like most measurements, is not prescriptive. It's a tool to help you find garments that fit the way you want them to if you're looking for a specific type of fit.
The fundamental rule is truly "if it looks good it is good"
100%. There is not a "right" answer to most of these things. How do you want your pants to fit? Is there a look you are going after?
If you want pants that sit higher, you want to look at things like rise measurements to see if there is room for them to go higher. I'm not confident from your photo above you're measuring rise correctly either
If you can pull them higher but they don't stay up, then you should probably wear a belt or look into different sized pants
right, but then how do i find the appropriate size for pants because when i try to measure myself around where i'd ideally like to wear my pants (high rise, at the belly button) then that circumference is like 34 inches, but these jeans which are rated 31x32 are big for me (since they don't stay up)
and none of my other pants stay up
Don’t use the tagged size on your pants. Actually measure the waist band of the pants. Lots of pants are listed as smaller than they are which is called “vanity sized”.
yeah, if i measure from one end to another and then double it, it's 17.5 * 2, so 35. but i'm confused, the inner label says 31x32, the product page says it too. (product specifics in second ss)
Bstormo is right
I would also recommend going into stores and trying things on to find pants that you feel good about. Don't worry about what size you think you are - actually find pants that fit and then use those measurements as your guide
Ignore the size pants say they are
And only care about measurements
but then how do you ever order online
By looking at measurements
Before you buy anything
Actual measurements, not listed size
I usually wear a 31" waist pants, but own pants ranging from 27" pants from the women's section to 33" mens pants, and all fit me about the same
It's much easier and less stressful when you actual know what measurements you want in clothing. I don't buy anything I either can't try on or doesn't have actual product measurements listed
but i can't actually measure it, i can only rely on what they say it's measured as
hmm, alright
i guess i'll just buy pants irl from now on
These sort of product pages are extremely unhelpful but
This is an example of what I'm talking about
Size 27 pants. But the actual product waist size is 31"
you're also going to find your "waist" is different depending on where you measure. For me, my "waist" at my belly button is a lot smaller than my "waist" at the top of my hip bones - other people are going to be bigger around the belly button than the hip etc. So you're not aiming at a fixed target depending on where you want the pants to fit/sit.
Here's another with better visuals
i'm confused - what's the difference between waist body size and waist relaxed
i'm having a comprehension moment
The verbiage they use is confusing but ignore the body size and the "relaxed" is the product measurements. It's uniqlos size chart
Just picked it as an example because they are popular and they actually have decent product measurements for almost everything they sell
okay - also, if people typically wear their pants near the navel circumference (either on it or half an inch-an inch below it) (i know you said ymmv, but let's say there's a general consensus), then what do people do if they lose or gain weight? two inches below my navel/sitting on my hips - that measurement isn't really going to change from working out, i feel like that's just... your body, but you can definitely become less rotund and change your upperbody figure. how do they deal with fluctuating body proportions?
belts.
People gain or lose weight on different parts of their body of course, but generally I buy clothing that is pretty forgiving and belt things when they get looser
try in store, buy secondhand (since it usually has measurements), buy from uniqlo and stores that actually have item measurements, etc
There are examples of folks here wearing pants several times too large and belting them and they look great
you can also buy suspenders
many pants designed to be worn at your true waist have in built ways of adjusting the size slightly too (side adjusters, buckle backs, self belts etc)
^ + drawstrings and varying uses of elastic