AMD CPU heats up when locking PC or changing TTY

- Locked with Windows + L - Game is Path of Exile 1 - changing TTY to view with bpytop does not affect the fans, they're still running fast, and the CPU is hot
77 Replies
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
@tulip here, imma install btop and try again
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
what exactly is your system state when you lock your screen? does it suspend? and if you can can you send ur rpm-ostree status -v output here?
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
It's just lock screened šŸ˜‚ I can even change tty and screw around over there just fine, but the system is still hot
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
this sucks šŸ˜­ journalctl -b -e -n 2000 | fpaste? whenever the system is blazing hot
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
--sensor name -------- temperature -------- ratio (fan_off and fan_max) --
ambient_f75303@4d 320 K (= 47 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
charger_f75303@4d 321 K (= 48 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
apu_f75303@4d 325 K (= 52 C) 33% (320 K and 335 K)
cpu@4c 369 K (= 96 C) 96% (338 K and 370 K)
gpu_amb_f75303@4d 310 K (= 37 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
gpu_vr_f75303@4d 310 K (= 37 C) 0% (323 K and 347 K)
gpu_vram_f75303@4d 309 K (= 36 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
gpu_amdr23m@40 306 K (= 33 C) 0% (323 K and 353 K)
--sensor name -------- temperature -------- ratio (fan_off and fan_max) --
ambient_f75303@4d 320 K (= 47 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
charger_f75303@4d 321 K (= 48 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
apu_f75303@4d 325 K (= 52 C) 33% (320 K and 335 K)
cpu@4c 369 K (= 96 C) 96% (338 K and 370 K)
gpu_amb_f75303@4d 310 K (= 37 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
gpu_vr_f75303@4d 310 K (= 37 C) 0% (323 K and 347 K)
gpu_vram_f75303@4d 309 K (= 36 C) N/A (fan_off=0 K, fan_max=0 K)
gpu_amdr23m@40 306 K (= 33 C) 0% (323 K and 353 K)
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
cpu - 360 KELVIN šŸ˜­
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
šŸ˜‚ yeah, it spikes to 96 idk why the hell ectool measures in kelvin lmao that's wild
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
it makes sense tho its the most accurate you can get
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
fair I suppose at least with integers huh
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
most weather stations most likely use kelvin for their mesures then change them to farenheit and celsius
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
for when you need to know when your cooling setup is so efficient that it's approaching absolute zero
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
this šŸ‘† hey @tulip I saw that shit šŸ’€
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
fire emoji for you too
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
anyways yeah its weird lemme grab the journalctl for ya
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
so you said the cpu temp jumps up, does btop actually show cpu percentage jumping up too?
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
alright
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
not that I could tell no
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
maybe lower the line cout a bit btw since fpaste doesnt like too much data
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
bpytop shows like 3% of the cpu being used
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
maybe tuned is doing something funky?
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
I'll just out it to a file and come grab it for here manually
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
okok
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
if so @Kyle Gospo might need to weigh in for reference on that front, I'm on my laptop, and I don't have any monitors plugged in. I'm playing with power plugged into the back left slot (FW 16 with dgpu)
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
cpu temp jumping without an actual increase in cpu usage is what's tripping me up
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
only thing i can think of is the fans just not working thats why i thought it was fw-fanctrl at first
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
I thought the fans went crazy
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
ok, so when locked, Path of Exile is using 100% of Core 3 it looks like intermittently yeah the fans are going nuts 100% clocked up
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
does this happen with other games?
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
haven't checked yet. I'll try with another xwayland game, then with a wayland native one
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
oh my god
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
journalctl šŸ‘†
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
what the hell
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
yeah it definitely could be the game losing its mind about losing focus/the screen being locked
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
i guess thats why
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
well there you go
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
what's up then? xwayland?
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
do MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink on specifically the path of exile game
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
like when launching it?
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
yup on the launch options just to see what happens
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
ye
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
it will run slightly worse
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
one mo I mean tbh, this isn't exactly a breaking issue šŸ˜‚ since I very infrequently lock my screen while gaming, but I'm trying the thing now
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
you'd need a %command% at the end of that line too
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
it is definitely concerning tho like that should never ever happen
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
Fans still spin up
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
ive had opengl errors like that with some funky stuff but not... like that.... journalctl again? if so we can add that variable on /etc/environment and see if kwin likes it better
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
no GL errors anymore nice
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
still heating tho
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
only thin kinda weird is all the wpa_supplicant logs but it seems... fine
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
Cores 2 and 3 yeah I'm on a crappy hospital wifi rn, don't worry about that šŸ˜‚
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
it doesnt happen on any other circumstances?
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
nope, just gaming lemme try other games now oh, I also have a non-steam game I can try through lutris
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
yea try that out
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
i might also try PoE without the steam overlay since I know that things jank as hell sometimes spinning up witcher 3 as another test ok Witcher 3 actually got cooler when locking I assume because it's getting paused or smth
alexmeyer
alexmeyerā€¢4d ago
probably
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
which is what I would've assumed PoE would do šŸ˜‚
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
maybe its just PoE?
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
could be the proton version too actually, Witcher was using 9.04, but poe is on experimental, one sec
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
might not be that tho proton should use dxvk those were gl errors on ur logs
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
yeah different proton didn't change anything
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
you can use protontkg w/ wayland to see if it is xwayland being weird
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
I mean poe is supposedly running Vulkan, so idk why gl errors would be there
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
most likely wont do anything tho yea
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
I can also try running poe in dx11 or maybe 12
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
you probably should test out some other games just to see if its just PoE
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢4d ago
witcher 3 doesn't do it OK so switching to DX11 makes it stop it's PoE's vulkan makes Mangohud stop reading my GPU properly lmao but that's a whole different thing lmao
tulip
tulipā€¢4d ago
its vkd3d apparently if it was on DX12 its vkd3d being mad at you
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢3d ago
so DX12 also doesn't do it as badly. It mostly just stays a little consistently hotter DX11 is fairly cool, DX12 is warmer, and Vullkan is cool while playing and hot while locked trying a wayland native game rn, that also runs on vulkan yeah that doesn't do it either just PoE gonna check to see if this is something known somehow on protondb Not that I can find. I'll try steam overlay and GE proton next Lutris game first tho AC Valhalla does not do it either steam overlay off + GE Proton does not change anything did confirm, btop shows the same CPU usage both before and after locking the screen only the temperature increases oh ok @tulip this is no longer just a game issue. While installing a game on Steam, it also does this. Locking the screen pushes the temps up
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospoā€¢3d ago
Have you removed the fan control packages? I tested this on my 16 last night and could not reproduce this with the same game Let alone just by locking
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢3d ago
I haven't but I can try. I don't know why that would effect it if all this does is modify the fan speeds so with fw-fanctrl paused (not uninstalled), the temperatures still increase when locked let me disable the service @Kyle Gospo disabling the fan control package did not affect it switching tty also does it now, not just locking temps fairly stable at 87 rn on tty2 (KDE), but immediately jump to 95 when on TTY 5 then they come right back down to 87 when I switch back
āÆ systemctl status fw-fanctrl
ā—‹ fw-fanctrl.service - Framework Fan Controller
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/fw-fanctrl.service; disabled; preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d
ā””ā”€10-timeout-abort.conf, 50-keep-warm.conf
Active: inactive (dead)
āÆ systemctl status fw-fanctrl
ā—‹ fw-fanctrl.service - Framework Fan Controller
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/fw-fanctrl.service; disabled; preset: disabled)
Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/system/service.d
ā””ā”€10-timeout-abort.conf, 50-keep-warm.conf
Active: inactive (dead)
State: idle
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btw oh, I don't want x11, lemme remove that lmao specifically, it's acpitz-acpi-0 temp4 that's spiking which is the CPU temperature GPU temp isn't doing anything different
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢3d ago
journalctl while on TTY5
dvelshnef
dvelshnefā€¢2d ago
I think this can also be reproduced by playing runescape 3 through https://github.com/USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak/. Since the latest bazzite update (Stable (F41.20241216)) whenever I launched the game it would make the CPU go crazy and peg all cores at 100% causing temperatures as high as 90C. The MESA_LOADER_DRIVER_OVERRIDE=zink option seems to work to stop this behavior and keeps the CPU at 9% usage. Wouldn't read too much into this since the game seems to barely work on linux to begin with, but thought I'd mention the data point since it seems to map pretty closely to this issue. No packages layered or fan software configured
GitHub
GitHub - USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak: Play RuneScape...
Play RuneScape with the Jagex Launcher - in Flatpak form! - USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢2d ago
Fascinating, I'm on 1209. I'll try upgrading today probably to see if anythings different too just in case
dvelshnef
dvelshnefā€¢2d ago
Yea, could be unrelated, but similar journalctl messages and CPU also going crazy seems like a interesting coincidence. Oddly I never saw the issue with 1209
Raevenant
RaevenantOPā€¢19h ago
Just tried turning off steam overlay but that didn't do anything Also apparently PoE2 also does this
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