41 Replies
fair-rose•2w ago
guh
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
there are some unethical parts of vencord like the message logger and some okay parts like the custom themes
fair-rose•2w ago
true
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
imagine i accidently sent personal information like where i live or smth and then quickly delete it and then because of someone using deleted message loggers they get to see it forever
some message loggers keep it for 24hrs tho
and some people say that message loggers are like screenshotting messages... except using message loggers are like if you screenshotted every message sent in every server you're in, constantly even when you are afk/idle doing smth else
some people make it even worse by using offline mode so now you don't even know when you are being spied on, you just know that you might be spied on right now
most people get message loggers because they think they are the cool one being able to see deleted messages
and deleted messages are meant to stay deleted
🤣 lmao i remembered ztuned saying "if they accidently post a message they shouldn't've, it's their fault", trying to give the blame on the people sending the messages
oh and what if you send a cringy message that you want it to be deleted but then you realize that 1. the message logger users will still see it 2. the message will be saved FOREVER in the server message logger
in discord, people expect to be able to delete their messages so they care abit less about "thinking before you type"
what if they sent the personal information to the wrong DM
i feel like message logger users don't care much about privacy
ambitious-aqua•2w ago
Yeah! Sometimes I might want to delete an old weird message i said in the past on a server but then i realize that they have a log bot and if i delete the message sent months ago then dyno will send a message at the time of deletion of the message
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
oh, almost forgot to mention that
also i think there should be an option in the poll between the "no!!! i will report you!!" and the "eh" option because the first option is abit "mocking" of the people who don't like message loggers
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
xenial-black•2w ago
Why does vencord exist in the first place
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
they wanted to add themes, customize discord and other stuff
but the message loggers are unethical because of the reasons i described
unwilling-turquoise•2w ago
message loggers store this info until you reset your client
not forever
#message-log is forever tho
as unfortunate as it is, message logs are pretty much crucial for moderation
ambitious-aqua•2w ago
You can make it that the logged deleted messages clear after 3 days, so let's say someone sent a message a month ago, and deletes it today, then it will show that the message is deleted but after 3 days it will delete the "deleted message in: general" thing
Good compromise?
unwilling-turquoise•2w ago
well I don't think there are bots that do that
ambitious-aqua•2w ago
Anyways we were talking about vencord
unwilling-turquoise•2w ago
yeah, but redbirdly mentioned server message logs too
fair-rose•2w ago
what channel is that
the real server log?
unwilling-turquoise•2w ago
yeah
message-log
internet users after realizing there is no expectation of privacy online
im not arguing for vencord message logger as i dont even currently have vencord installed, but you cant expect much privacy posting stuff on the internet
fair-rose•2w ago
more secret channels???
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
i thought you were able to see message log channel
fair-rose•2w ago
no
only automod and chat mod hub
i assumed i would be able to see message log at first but ryan said thats not needed
harsh-harlequin•2w ago
I DAMN LOVE SYSTEM 32!!!!
eastern-cyan•2w ago
perfectly balanced
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
@jolly 3pm ☃ did you vote yet?
manual-pink•2w ago
bluefly
what
did i vote what
oh
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
wait i thought you didn't like message loggers
manual-pink•2w ago
vencord isnt message logger
exotic-emerald•2w ago
i love commiting crimes because somehow i invade everyones privacy just by someone deleting an message
wise-white•2w ago
message loggers suck. if i want to delete stuff, i want it gone FOREVER
i use vencord sometimes though, but i do NOT use messgae loggers
it has messgae logger plugin
unwilling-turquoise•2w ago
what about server message logs
i assure you pretty much every single server on discord has a message log
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
🤨 but why do you need to see deleted messages
prob because you think it's cool
manual-pink•2w ago
yes, but vencord isnt the message logger, you have to enable it to use it
exotic-emerald•2w ago
nah
It's their fault because they don't have to put their personal information in an certain channel
foreign-sapphire•2w ago
the classic overused "blaming everything on the person who sent the message" excuse
it's possible to accidently post personal information
example: you clicked on the wrong server, or you pasted the wrong file or you posted the right file but you forgot to blur something so you quickly delete it and posted it blurred again
exotic-emerald•2w ago
why would some people trust moderators more than normal ppl
they're still basically strangers to you
they're not like a good friend of yours or anything (most of the time)
exotic-emerald•2w ago
dont worry i can refresh / restart it and i will not copy then leak your moms credit card to fucking x
eastern-cyan•2w ago
as a vencord user i really dont give a shit about it anymore lmao 😍😍
the background is a cool blue color
and uhhh
there’s a cat
ok yeah it’s good
because of that
fair-rose•2w ago
i use vencord only for the translation feature and the insert timestamps (i love timestamps)
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exotic-emerald•2w ago
i still have no idea how people hate it
foreign-sapphire•6d ago
i still have no idea how people don't hate it
unwilling-turquoise•6d ago
it's useful
stormy-gold•5d ago
it makes people shut up about finding out what bad stuff someone did
as bad as it sounds
if people dont know why someone's in trouble
they'll likely ask mods
which could get more people timed out
making more people curious
if they did care and have loggers, it would be more clear to them and they'll stop asking