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iTeachChem•2mo ago
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EGE

wont Na resist the addition of an electron?? by saying exothermic, it means that its releasing energy and hence getting more stable but Na- will be unstable na?? is it cuz 2s orbital will get filled?? by that logic wont 4 also satisfy since by releasing the electron it will be more stable, hence releasing energy and gaining a low energy state??
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
@Dexter
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
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Opt
Opt•2mo ago
First one and fourth one imo, but is it single answer?
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
single and the answer is 3 idk how idk why mujhe bhi 1 and 4 laga @Aman you told me to ping for Periodic help ;-;
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
wait child exothermic means what heat is released
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
energy yes
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
rukh
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
heat is energy
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
i will stop c02 production okay chill is it 2 ?
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
is it 1st one? I.E
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nope nope 3 i checked 6 times ill check again yus its 3
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
OH you know how
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nope
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
in lattice energy yu add an electron its an exothermic reaction nah wait hold up lemme cook smth
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
wha-who- LATTICE ENERGY KAHA SE AAYI WHAT THE HELL 😭
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
it should be endothermic. Because Na plus gains stability when forms cation... maybe question is wrong?
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nahh im not doing this book anymore last question im going to VK Jaiswal smh and yes youre right
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
Na forms cation lmoa
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
Oxygen when u add 2 electrons
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nvm that
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
it becomes endothermic cause its negative yes minttea is right when its positive and u add electron its exothermic
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
yea im tweaking atp
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
if its negative and if u add electron its endothermic we have to give energyt cause electron repulsion between negative negative
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
ye
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
4 is not possible as it is the opposite @Phalawor ye konse section wala qns h are u in 11th 12th or done w 12th
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
same and Na is not possible cuz exothermic I.P eee I hate chem
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
ok
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
yeah the option is 3 its endothermic
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
thank you gogeta
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
aayein
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
bhai bhai i am zoning out of the convo so answer me if im correct and correct me if im wrong dekh when we are saying exothermic we mean releasing energy
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
yes
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
and releasing energy emans becoing more stable right?
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
in case of IP
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
yes
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
of cations
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
whtas IP
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
lone pair
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
ionisation pot
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
WAH
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
to LP likho na
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Wait I forgot is EGE always -ve? 💀
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
heh ionisation potential kyu aa rha idhar
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
man
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nope depends on the atom/species dumb question
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Ah so for group 1 metals it can be positive right?
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
in case of 4th option and in case of the other of electron gain enthalphy like option elimnation method
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
ok so i first O- after adding the electron will become more stable right?
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
yes
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
hm
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
so wouldnt THAT be exothermic??
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
flower listen when u add electron to an electronegative atom such as fluorine oxygen nitrogen its often endothermic as they are negative already you add elctron to them repulsion hota h
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
ok i forgot about that
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
only in case of cationss
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
so we add energy to overcome the repulsion
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
righto
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
yes about time
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
ok got it thanks yall
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
ask more cause im almost done w 11th so i need revision if i dont see the server just dm if u know other ppl ask them to dm
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
OH PLEASE WILL U TEACH ME PHYSICS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Wait a second just a dumb doubt I have
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Bro chill 💀
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
KAL EXAM HAI MERA PLEASE ITS 12TH SHIT
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
say what chapter minttea im actually new to cbse
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
KINETIC THEORY OF GASES SOME WEIRD MAXWELL VELOCITY SHIT
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
im starting all the topics from scratch
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Does stability of things not have anything to do with sign of ege?
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
oh thats easy somewhat easy
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
SIKHAADO PLEASE PLEASE
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
i have over 3 days of time on it dm me ur doubts in dms i will check it within an hour im revising thermodynamics
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
ok then tmr imma sendd
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Yo can someone help 😢
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
yes wait sir yes
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
by things u are referring to ion formation?
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
actually sir see the thing is in chemistry u dont ask why
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
Ye
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
mug up move on now i said right u write it down in ur copy and memorise @minttea isnt kinetic theory of gases 11th
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLac•2mo ago
That's so real tho. 💀
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
every curriculum and board has a type of approach same for subjects in cbse personal advice please memorise write down and move on because why why puchoge to its gonna take too much time kota factory wo vaibhav ka case ho jayga
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
so basically its kinda like this concept of potention energy causes instablity kinda thing. So when cation is formed, it requires energy to expell out an atom so it is endothermic and hence + energy cuz YOU NEED TO PUT IN ENERGY vice versea in anion so yeah this is wat i learnt from my teacher
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
minttea isnt kinetic theory of gases 11th
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
heat also there in 12th combined shit
Titan.
Titan.•2mo ago
ig its 3 , cause Na is a alkali metal that means it has small tnedancy to gain electron to fill s subsheel from ns1 to ns2 , so it will gain electron and when this happens it will give out energy so its exothermic
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
ok
Titan.
Titan.•2mo ago
alothought i has more tendancy to lose elelectron it still has some tendacny to gain 1 electron
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
can it be same for alkaline metals also ?
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
hmm
Titan.
Titan.•2mo ago
all of them i think im not sure
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
riyal
Titan.
Titan.•2mo ago
ya but all alkali metals will have similar tendacny to gain or lose electron
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
imma send a diagram
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
bina concept ke dmaag mai nahi rhta naa
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
tell me if yall studied this
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
got it thanks man
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
remember reading abt it smwehre do you guys like have those small summaries of all chapters like cheat sheets types do you know where to find them for jee level stuff??
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
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Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
when u add one electron to Oxygen you dont get it as endothermic its exothermic when u add a second electron to oxygen its endothermic this is lattice energy or born haber cycle
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
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Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
@Phalawor @minttea @SirLancelotDuLac whenever it points down its negative if arrow points up its positive
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
ahh shit im gonna do phuysics
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
u guys ever studied this?
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
yup
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
is it ther ein cbse guud
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
long time back
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
i dont see it in neet
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
in july aug
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
ou ok
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
im gonna do physics and save my arse for saturdays test ugh UGHHHH
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
ohhh ok got it dude thanks @minttea i so relate to you ;-;
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
WHICH COACHING
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
aakash you?
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
me too
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
noice dude
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
actually guys
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
bhai can i DM you for stuff
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
it doesnt depened on what coaching
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
ehh lets forget abt minee
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
yeah sure listen im new to india im new to all these so im just gonna give the advice i know cause man
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
dubai gang?
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
india ka system dekhkar no im like science jo le raha h usse bada npc duniya mein koi aur nahi h
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
oh
Gogeta
Gogeta•2mo ago
which class u in is carnot engine efficiency int hermodynamics in syllabus i wasoing a mcq it said its not ther
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
its in advanced mains me nahi aata advanced me bhi once or twice only it has come for chem taht is
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
shes neet orm
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
physics is just idk
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
i studied carnot cycle in CHEM BABAHJDHFAKFHKAHFJAD
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
nahi padhi abhi tak to no idea on carnot engine yea its cool loved it
minttea
minttea•2mo ago
HE
flower
flowerOP•2mo ago
well thank you yall +solved @minttea @Gogeta @Titan.
iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•2mo ago
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