Wearing a yarmukle with business formal

I'm a Jewish man who wears a yarmukle (also called a kippah). When I'm wearing a suit, should I match the yarmukle to my tie, my shirt, my shoes, or my suit? I want to wear it and look put together, but not draw attention. I like the photo of Bill Clinton matching his to Hillary's dress, but that's obviously not applicable in the office.
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adaptation
adaptation4w ago
dawg did you just post Itamar Ben-Gvir as inspo
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
not an endorsement, just the first photo I could find of someone wearing a white shirt with a white yarmukle
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
I'm sure you can find a picture that does not contain a kahanist
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
probably but what do you think of his fit?
raisinpie
raisinpie4w ago
:bruh:
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
bro
adaptation
adaptation4w ago
not doing this man
anasthesia-
anasthesia-4w ago
:boi:
william
william4w ago
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
as a secular jewish dude who doesn't wear any religious garments i'm too ashamed of him to care about his fit don't care and this is just a personal opinion but man don't get your inspiration from politicians
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
it's difficult to find photos of men wearing business formal and yarmukles
raisinpie
raisinpie4w ago
tbh I don't think it's something you should bother matching to your outfit
adaptation
adaptation4w ago
i understand that but i dont think 'not fascist' is an insane bar
william
william4w ago
I’m sure it’s less difficult than you would think
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
^ it depends on the type, color and knit of kippah but black or white goes with anything if your formal fit is fucked it's probably not gonna be the kippah's fault
adaptation
adaptation4w ago
personally i dont think matching it to anything it going to do much for you
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
so just stick to black or white for the office?
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
nope, put your formal fit on then try whatever you want and decide if it looks good or not
adaptation
adaptation4w ago
yeah just see what works for you or feels good on the day there's no color theory 'right thing' to match it to
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
I've seen some religious dudes put some cool ass kippahs but only you can determine if it works for you and the fit you choose, you can be expressive with it or you can go for a safer bet like black, white or knitted blue take what I'm saying with a grain of salt because I don't wear anything
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
does this look silly to you as well?
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
too big for my taste but idk where you live or what sub ethnicity are you so it might be appropriate my opinion doesn't matter what does matter is that you feel it works for you
adaptation
adaptation4w ago
yeah to me the smaller ones like Burg and Prince William have on would feel more natural but thats more about personal preference Sandler kinda looks like he has a helmet on
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
I think for black tie the only way to go is with a black yarmukle
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מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
(ignore the llama)
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
if you feel that way then that's your truth imo it doesn't really matter and the colors don't really have to match, especially when it's a smaller one again, it depends on what you think is appropriate for the occasion and level of formality you're dressing for, you can't go wrong with a black, white or knit blue one. if you wanna explore it further there are a lot of different patterns or colors or even different traditional clothing from many jewish ethnic groups, it depends on what you want to wear since you said you want to look put together but not draw attention then use the basic ones
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
makes sense, thanks!
Duck
Duck4w ago
I'm not jewish so I'll ask - are there any traditional patterns or associations with the color or style?
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
there is in Israel, less in the US but there's no particular style I'm attached to
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
really depends on the jewish ethnic groups, I'll post some unique ones from around the world
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
bukharian
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Mumbai, India
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Morocco
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Afghanistan
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
more traditional yemenite one, usually has some embroidery on the side
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
children's kippah, Kurdistan
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
eastern europe
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Hazzan's kippah, Germany
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Ceremonial kippah, Poland
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Kenya
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selecttool
selecttool4w ago
Presumably yemen
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lyon
lyon4w ago
the kenyan one goes hard tbh
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
it really does I'll stop now but there are many more variations, it all depends on the ethnicity, culture and place of living of a jewish community at that time, really interesting to see how living as a minority in a bigger culture affected clothing, especially religious ones
Duck
Duck4w ago
yea, to me these are way cooler than the photos at the top of the thread. Sometimes pieces work better when they're not matched to the rest of the outfit. It can add a tension that tells a story. It implies that this item is important enough to you personally that you don't fit it to the occasion.
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
keep in mind that these are more historic garments rather than contemporary ones, you'd probably won't see these traditional garments unless you physically go to a community that still exists and see how they're dressed
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
they're definitely cooler, but I'm looking for buisness attire, not for a statement piece
Duck
Duck4w ago
fair enough. I say all this merely to make the point that not all items need to match. Even in a formal setting, a religious item is understood to be personal.
selecttool
selecttool4w ago
oh yeah definitely, if you feel like connecting more with your ethnicity then items like these can be deeply personal for you and not just functional
מְנַחֵם
מְנַחֵםOP4w ago
even if they're not matching, I don't think there's much cultural cohesion. I wouldn't wear a business suit with a flashy yarmukle for the same reason I wouldn't wear a blazer with french cuffs, it just doesn't really fit
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