What features/improvements would you want for a potential PZ2?
No individual animals please, features as in flying birds or a foliage brush.
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Considering Coaster 2 added water parks, I'd expect Zoo to add in full aquatic, like sea world stuff, and aquarium exhibits
Ik this might sound weird but the predation like say if you release a tiger and a prey into a habitat it would be cool to see the tiger stalk the prey for a bit
Id like more herd mechanics
Automatic management of habitat animals, similar to that of exhibitions
I’d also like rodents like rats and mice to be added aswell as rabbits and hares
Oh and squirrels
No animal suggestions lol, there’s already a discussion for that
Rabbits and hares aren't rodents anyway
Anyway id like to see barrier improvements and more barrier types
Also giving flamingoes, cranes, swans, peafowl and chickens the ability to fly and perch
Also add perches for birds
Aswell as net and rope climbing frames
I don’t think they’re in the rodentia family
Sorry i mean aren't
I didnt know why it correct to are
implement all dlcs from PZ1, if u already bought them.
Like in the warhammer total war series.
Change iguana from exhibit to habitat
Change bats from exhibit to habitat
Or larger exhibits, there is no way it is ok for the iguanas to be in that tiny box
Thats why i said make em habitat
True true
Because if monitors can be habitat then so can iguana
and if meerkats and prairie dogs, arguably much smaller animals can be habitat then the iguanas can
They should make them 2x2 and when you put them side by side it auto-merges them, being able to make them as big as you want. Then you can make unique shapes out of single exhibits.
Along with the option to have "netting" as a barrier option. So it auto builds netting on top of whatever barrier you use, including null.
That is a great idea!
Maybe nake automerging optional
Some people may not like that feature being forced on them
Well yeah. That's what I mean. Like when you have "add to building" toggled on it will merge them, or if you don't have that checked you can put small ones side by side.
They could auto fill them with the right biome, and have it somewhat customizable. There would need to be a max limit... Maybe 12x12x12M. Maybe more, especially if they add fish, having some epic fish tanks would be cool.
1. Interspecies Interactions especially for species with interspecies enrichment bonus.
2. More animal accuracies like gharial will slide on their belly when they're moving on ground.
3. New "egg" mechanic and feature especially for reptiles and birds.
4. Personalities for animals.
5. More than 1 sleeping animation for all species.
6. More parent and baby interactions like some species will nursing their babies while some species will carry babies on their backs.
7. City Background
8. Random Events
Personally I find cities ugly so I'm glad we never got city locations
I hope some species will get interspecies enrichment bonus in PZ2 too like:
Greater Flamingos could have interspecies enrichment bonuses with hippos, pygmy hippos and maybe some european animals like Red Deer.
Gharial could have interspecies enrichment bonuses with Greater Flamingos and indian species like Indian Peafowls.
Little Penguins could have interspecies enrichment bonus with Kiwis.
And by the other sides, it should be unsafe to mix some of primate species with another primate species in PZ2 just like IRL. Like if you put Chimpanzees and Gorillas together in PZ2, they will fight each other with gorilla potentially kills the chimp.
Two more features i wanted in Planet Zoo 2 are multiple entrances for one habitat and the second feature is the freeroaming for some animals like Peafowl.
Personally i find freeroaming animals in zoos one of yhe dumbest ideas
Its a danger to the animal itself and natural ecosystems
The animal is exposed to predators and people constantly trying to pet it and feed it unhealthy human foods
And the high likelihood of them escaping zoo grounds, breeding and destroy the balance of the native ecosystem
Theres a reason some locations in america have feral peacock problems
Alright, let's just dispose this idea then.
My local zoo used to have free roaming lemurs and prairie dogs but not anymore which means something happened to make them go back on that idea
in PZ2, herbivores don't need any feeders or keepers to giving them foods for them at all. They can just eat natural grasses in their habitat, but they will still need food enrichments to be happy. However, they will need a feeder and keeper for them if their terrain is dry. If JWE2 has that then PZ2 should have that too.
Zoos still feed their herbivores regardless of grass in the habitat
Simply because overgrazing is a very common issue
Especially with a fenced in area
Over grazing isnt an issue in the wild for two reasons
Constant roaming and predators
Also herbivores still need food other than just grass
PZ2 needs predation and a combat system like JWE
PZ already has it, more like overhauling it in PZ2.
Infact the zoopedia could do with an update
Like telling us what animals arent compatible with eachother
Like jwe2
Some animals should sleep longer and alot in PZ2, like the lions.
koalas should spend more time in trees
Maybe, change them to Walkthrough exhibit animal like the sloth.
Well technically they do now
Everyones just nor doing it right
Pz animal climbing correlates to the ratio of walking and climbing space
Give them more climbing space than walking space and they will climb more
Nah
They are fine as is
They just need to fix the climbing issue with all the arboreal animals
Reprogramming them to climb more regardless of walking space
Because im kinda sick of trying to remove walking space just to get an animal to climb more
I hope they making it's easier to build underwater tunnels in PZ2 for aquatic species.
and also able to scaling construction pieces as well.
If they actually make tunnels a building piece
Some of my ideas for new building pieces
New barrier type: Aviary Barrier
New hut type: nest box/bird house (functions the same as the burrow but for birds and arboreal mammals)
Bird feeder
Tire swing enrichment item
Perches for birds aswell would work
If they're going to add birds to PZ2 then they're going to and should put them in a new UI tab called as "Aviary Trading".
not really, the predation system is ass, they cant even hunt
Honestly, don't forget that PZ is a zoo game. Not a predator and hunting game.
its just not realistic
They could make it way more realistic in PZ2 like.
A Dingo shouldn't able to kill a Leopard solo by just itself.
yes
I'll agree that they should make some Herbivores able to injure and even potentially kills some Carnivores in PZ2.
ik it seems like much but they should have animations for the predation andfights
For example, A Rhino should be able to injured a Lion in PZ2.
yes then pz2 is goated
Not even injure
Straight up kill
Well, make Herbivores able to kill Carnivores in PZ2 is one of my wishes for the sequel now.
Even prides struggle against a healthy fullt grown rhinoceros in its prime
Infact its such a dangerous task lions know to outright avoid rhinos in general
is pz2 confirmed?
not officially confirmed
but given that planet coaster of all things got a sequal
and the overall popularity of planet zoo
a planet zoo 2 is more than likely to happen eventually in future
nice
I don't know if you guys noticed but at the end of the Zookeepers Dlc there was a fish transition
those werent fish
those were leaves
You sure
??
yes
I thought I saw fish
they were leaves
Wait
On sec
yea its leaves
It is leaves
how on earth do these look like fish
you gotta be blind as hell
I lost my glasses
most definetly leaves
I saw oval shaped wiggling around and saw fish
I need to find my glasses bro
Either way
I feel like pz2 is most likely revolving around the world's problems and we save it
Like climate change
Or fires
Pollution, Poaching, etc
Kind of like jwe2 and how you fix up an abandoned poacher camp or how you save the burnt down valley
I remember some idiot on twitter thought that transition was stingrays
Lol
this last leaf kinda looks like one
I mean technically alot of things you do in planet zoo one is breeding and releasing endangered species
I mean yeah
But like
We can't release them into their ruined natural habitats
So I think we'll be able to fix ruined ecosystems
I prefer the idea that instead of dropping the zoo stuff to go and do that
It should function the same as the jwe fossil digging
You send out employees to do that and get rewards from it
Hmm
Perchance
I literally don't like the idea of dropping everything you are doing to just go and clean garbage or protest logging
Actually that would add too much task variety and make the game very unfocused
I don't think they are going to change the focus of PZ2 away from... Building and maintaining a zoo. Lol.
Basically
Imagine a map
That is burned down
It's ashy and all the trees are dead
alot of this kind of work isnt done by zoos though
and you can fix it
its by wildlife fund organisations
And another idea
Botany
Greenhouses
All thay
botany definately takes away from the zoological aspect
we technically have botony in the form of the plants
It won't center around botany
but focusing on maintaining the plants
also adds another thing to distract you from actually maintaining the animals
It's just like there would be a knew staff facility called a green house and a new staff called botanist and it's like you grow plants and give it to the animals
Kind of like the first jwe
And there can be harmful plants
its already a chore to try and prevent them from escaping/killing eachother/starving to death/etc
And you can research and buy plants from a plant market
you go focus on one thing and something else happens
botany and clean up will just add the the confusion and overwork
But don't you like the idea of having multiple things to do
Adds to the fun
its already a pain doing the animal research and saving money to buy them from the market
dont give us the same pain with the plants
Wdym pain researching?
especially since many animals require plant coverage to feel comfortable
My research is fine
It's pretty quick too
Each stage is like 4 minutes
also adding a plant market also suggests that the plants would have genetics and lifespan
Yes
which means you gotta replace a plant everytime it dies
or sell them everytime they overpopulate
Plants can breed
which just adds to the overwork
And I imagine it like exhibits where you can
Set total population
its hard enough focusing on maintaining the peacock population
Contraceptives
i aint maintaining bloody weeds ontop of that
And I envision it as a way to educate guest to
Because educating guests is fucking impossible imo
the guests are just stupid
ive seen em get trapped in the corner of the path and cry out for help
complains when the animal enclosure is too small, despite the fact it increases the visibility
complains when the enclosure is big enough because they cannot see the animal
You could try alternative methods for visibility
You could make bridges above the enclosure, make them walkthrough, use viewing domes, cameras, etc
Transportation
There's more than just looking through the glass
Despise the concept of walkthrough habitats
Try to keep it as naturalistic as possible for a zoo
While still making it look like a zoo
Irl walkthrough habitats removed the animals natural fear of humans and make the guests a little too bold with wild animals
The only change to Predator and Prey interaction system that i wished in PZ2 is that Herbivores should able to kill and injure Carnivores.
Also, some herbviores should fight other herbivore species in their habitat in PZ2. It existed partially in PZ1 with Rhinos and Hippos.
Meerkats should be able to solo gorillas imo
Nice joke here, i got it.
It's not a joke
I'm being srs
Nah I'm joking
I'm scared of meerkats tho
They're like the racoons of Africa
Eh more like ferrets
You're right
Meerkats are part of the mongoose family though
Very nasty critters
I love mongeese
Especially fossa
Fossa arent mongoose
Distantly related
Yes they are
But not the same family
No
I was told that
No they arent
You were told wrong
Fossa are part of the family eupleridae
There really closely related
According to Gemini
Mongoose are herpestidae
Just because they're not in the same family doesn't make them not related
Bears and seals are related but that doesnt mean a sea lion is considered a bear
And i literally said fossa were related to mongoose right here
Or did you blatantly ignore that
I literally saw a fossa at the Bronx Zoo and it said they were a kind of mongoose
Probably mentioned malagasy mongoose
Which are not true mongoose
No
They said mongoose
Not any specific mongoose
Still incorrect
I'll take the word of real zoologists
Who say they are
Still incorrect
Are you a trained certified zoologist?
Theres an actual zoologist in the serger if i can remember their name I'll literally ping them to prove so
Is your only power to disagree?
Goodness gracious
I don't think I've ever seen you agree to anything so far
@Tanooki_Leaf congratulations archie replaced you as the most obnoxious piss head in the server
It would be cool if there's detail in PZ2 that if guests can't see your animals clearly, they will mistake the animal for another species.
I didn't do anything!
I was just talking about how fossa are a kind of mongoose
They aren't
And no
Bronx zoo shouldnt be treated like the absolute jesus incarnate gospel of knowledge
Just because one zoo says so doesnt mean its correct
Believe what you want but I'm taking the word of multiple zoologists I've met in person, the multiple research I did, the Bronx Zoo, etc
More than just the Bronx Zoo
They are distantly related
But are not mongoose
What others zoos
Show physical proof
Believe what you want sweetheart
Where
Where
Physical proof
Where
No I'm saying other zoologists not other zoos
Shpw
Which zoos said it though
Show me
Peove it
Show actual proof
The Bronx
I didn't take a picture of it
Im not dropping this until you show me physical proof of bronz zoo saying they are infact mongoose
I don't have it
Ame physical evidence of other zoos saying it
As far as im concerned ifbthere isnt physical evidence its untrue
Prove that it's not?
Which i know alot of ghost believers are gonna be mad at
Yk what
I've had a long day
I'm gonna stick to believing my multiple sources and if you don't want to believe that then that's you boo
Have a good night
💕💕
Planet zoo meerkat taxonomy
Wikipedia page on the mongoose family
Planet zoo fossa taxonomy
Read em and weep
I'm not weeping but ok sweetheart
Yo you gay as hell calling a dude sweetheart
Despite how irrational your being
I'm choosing to stay passive
Disagree all you want
I'm dropping this
I am gay lil bro
And I call everyone sweetheart, boo, babe, etc
San Diego zoo's webpage on fossa
Zoological expert example right there
Planet zoo also was worked on by zoological experts
Just because it's not in the family does not mean it's not a mongoose booboo
It's not. It's a cousin of mongoose but it isn't one.
Because its not in the family doesnt mean its not the thing
Okay
This is a dog
This is a cat
This is a whale
And this is a horse
Thank you
midnightmalice received a thank you carrot!
Someone smart for once
I may not worked at an actual zoo but i do properly research taxonomy in my spare time
Listen
The second time saying this
I'm choosing to stay passive and move on
If you're too immature to handle how other people see things then that's a you problem
I'll stick to everything I've been told
Btw taxonomy is the classification of animals and ive done a fair bit of research on this topic
Have a good night
So i know for a fact i am right
And thats why im all defensive on this
Well that's what you believe
And to keep this server positive let's just move on
I'm trying my best and training to be a real zoologist
So maybe you think what I say is wrong
Same here
And that's alright!
Have a goodnight
💕💕
But i went through the taxonomy route
Through my spare time
I know animal classification
I went more into genetics + biology with animals
DNA and all that stuff
Genetics and biology add to taxonomy
So maybe they are not classed the same
Dna proves they are distant relatives
But are not mongoose
The more I try to move on the worse you get
A bear is genetically a distant cousin of a dog but is not a dog
If you're gonna go on then continue this in chat
A rhino is a distant cousin of a horse but is not a horse
it's a fact of how they were classified. It isn't really an interpretation or belief issue.
So please respectfully stfu with the "but bronx zoo said so" bs
But notice how the genetic traits and behaviours are really similar?
I can agree with the fact that they are CLOSE relatives
One scurries around on the ground eating small animals
Maybe they're not classified the same
The other climbs in trees eating lemurs
How is that behaviorally the same
I'm going based on what I've been told by zoologists, articles, google, and the Bronx Zoo
It's basically like saying that humans are chimpanzees.
Why are you still continuing this
Taxonomy isnt just "this animals looks similar to this one so they must he the same"
I'm trying to stay positive and drop this but you're making it hard
It's not about how they look
Same time you've said that same sentence
DNA states that they are closely related
And you still can't get it in your head babe
I LITERALLY JUST FUCKING SAID THAT YOU IGNORANT SHIT
Continued this in #general
This is a thread for pz2 wishes
Not silly arguments that can be avoided
I know you want me to kove but just replying, ive literally been doing all this same shit to prove my point
Also thanks for actually helping
You're thanking too much ó_ò
I'm not trying to convince you to belive me
Nor am I trying to argue
Its not a matter of belief though its a matter of fact
Ok yk what
Im trying so hard to stay positive but you are making WAY too hard you nasty shit
I've been fucking trying to on but your being a little baby ass bitch like stfu dirty ass hoe
AND I DON'T CARE I'M GOING OFF OF FACTS I'VE BEEN TAUGHT MY ENTIRE LIFEEE
IF YOU'RE TO IMMATURE TO HANDLE THAT ZOOLOGISTS HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THEN GROW. THE. FUCK. UPPP!!
NOW FUCKING DROP IT AND MOVE ON
I THOUGHT WE COULD SHARE OUR LOVE FOR ANIMALS TO BE FRIENDS BUT I GUESS YOUR JUST THAT HARD HEADED
GOODNIGHT
Look
Im sorry my guy
I can be harsh and defensive about what i know is fact
That can make me a little bit of an angry shithead
My love of animals can make me argumentative at the worst of times
I've not been in the friendliest of moods lately since my bestfriend passed away
I mean he was just an animal
All I was talking about is its current classification.
But it still hurts
Hey, you guys. Reminder, this is a suggestion thread and not a real animal biology discussing thread.
Im sorry I've been very snappy lately since my best friend fucking died
I understand
He was just a tortoise but it still fucking hurts
Your best friend died?
Anyways, let's get back to the topic. Okay?
Plus being autistic i tend to hyperfixate on certain topics
But dont tend to be the friendliest at times
Wouldn't it be cool to have nest boxes like this for owls and other tree dwellers
I had a little budgie that was my best friend that passed away. Call me crazy but I loved him more than I loved my family. I have a lot of mental problems and I would immediately cuddle with him after every problem. Ever since he passed i just haven't been the same. But I try to stay positive and friendly at all times no matter how my shitty family treats me and no matter what I'm going through. I'm sorry for my outburst but i honestly just hate when people make it hard to stay happy all the time. Friends?
I really just wanna have a good relationship with everyone
Even when we disagree
And just to make earliers debate sfop for good i was applying the same logic as malice
But yeah allls good now
Awesome
Anyway back to the original topic
That would be pretty cool
Allowing the tortoises to use mudbaths would be a cool feature too
Galapagos tortoises love mud wallows
I think
Wild thought though
Scuba diving
Like say planet zoo were to include aquatic species
Scuba keepers for aquatic habitats
Guests could scuba dive as a kind of walk through habitat
I've been going wild with a shit ton of bird suggestions in the #Say some animal you want in the game but have rarely or never seen anyone ask for that animal!
I love birds
Mainly budgies
Same
"But they're just a common house bird blah blah" Shut up they're cute
I used to have 2
I had 5
My eldest one died recently too
I had to give them away
Ive had rotten luck this year
My mom hated the sound they made
I personally love budgie chirps
I found it quite relaxing tbh
Its quite a whimsical and sweet noise for parrots
Quaker parrots are the complete opposite
Grouchy fiends that make loud noises
I was planning on getting an orchid mantis
But they're really pricey
ORCHID MANTIS WOULD MAKE SUCH A GOOD Exhibit ANIMAL
Ive not had much personal experience with insects
Outside of feeder locusts
I've had a lot
I had beetles, mealworms, spiders, etc
Bird flight shows for the educators would be a neat feature
You could build a show platform and have an educator posted there
YESHH
And assign different birds to it
I'm going on a field trip in December and they have a falcons show
Like falcons, owls, eagles, vultures or parrots
I've been told by my sister who went
When I was visiting the Sahara Desert in Algeria I saw this vulture (I think it was a vulture I barely saw it) and it looked cool
It looked like a turkey
But like
Not fat
Given the description and location id say probably a griffon vulture
I could be wrong though
They are fascinating birds though
Oddly beautiful
It looked kind of like that but it's face was pinkish?
It could've been another bird tho
Seems outlandish to think it was a lappet faced vulture
I dont beleive a lappet face has been spotted in algeria before
Ok wait
I think it was another raptor
It was flying pretty fast that my camera couldn't get it
Omg it's so cold aaaa
I'm shivering rn
I was shivering a bit ago too
It's like 49 degrees rn
Ive hidden under me blankets
Nice n toasty
I love fall and winter
Less of the boiling summer weather
Sad part though is all the nice summer birds and insects gotta leave
New Jersey temperature never makes sense
70-80 at 12
60-50 at 2-3
Below 50-40 after that
I'm fine with that because it means the Looks will migrate to me
As a european all our birds migrate to africa
Or spain if theyre lazy enough
My Algerian family would NOT like that
Climate change makes alot of climates warmer than they should be in different seasons
They hate birds because they poop on the rooves
I love our migratory birds
Barn swallows are very iconic part of childhood
Especially for a person who lives in the countryside
I live in the city
I don't have much cool animals
But I live on a peninsula which means we have a lot of semi aquatic birds
I grew up in a rural village in the farmland
My uncle has a farm
In the desert tho
We have alot of lovely garden birds like european robins
But unfortunately alot of stray cats
Bro Algeria is swimming with cats everywhere
If you're lucky you might spot eurasian jays or eurasian sparrowhawks
Pigeons to
But they are a rare site
I have a bunch of bald eagles
Both birds prefer dence forest coverage here
I see them everywhere
Especially near the water
I mean bald eagles are a type of sea eagle
They scare me
I saw one gore a rabbit
Ik that's how they eat but
That is a very rational fear though
What if it does that to me
Again, do not discuss anything here!
I think its smart to fear a grand powerful wild animal
This is for suggestions and wishlists for PZ2.
Oh yeah
Forgot
We keep drifting off
Back to the topic.
We were talking abt birds in planet zoo
Then got here
Hanging puzzle feeders for monkeys would be awesome
I have to go to bed
See you tomorrow nerds
Cya
Rope climbing frames would be cool too
If they dont exist already
Because sometimes i forget whats already ingame
Scratching posts for tortoises
Tire swings for primates and bears
I remember there being rope climbing frams
Around the time the tropical pack came out
I think planet zoo does NOT need more bears
Other than the american black bear they got all of them basically
They have two subspecies of brown bear for some reason though
And I envision it being like jwe where the sequel has all the base game animals plus the dlc and then pz2 would come out with all new dlc
That's what I'm saying
No shoebill stork but another bear?
Like
Theres 3 animals i considered a wasted slot honestly
Himalayan brown bear, siberian tiger and arctic wolf
Those spaces could have been usef for more interesting animals
You just said what I was gonna say lol
Like shoebills
Pelicans
We could have had secretarybirds
Yessss
Maybe even walrus
Sea turtles
Since they don't need an aquarium
Babies would be horrendous though
They should add laying eggs
To make it more realistic
:discorn: why is there blue corn
Anyway
I would enjoy seeing eggs
And nesting behaviour
Bengal Tiger is the wasted one actually.
Siberian Tiger is more common than Bengal Tiger in zoo.
Would be neat to watch an ostrich sitting on eggs
Imo they both look the same
But also to watch the parents swirch places
Ostriches parenting is shared
As much as the new anniversary leopard is cool we could've gotten literally any other animal
Theres small differences but he is right the siberian is more commo. In zoos irl
Or maybe even a different leopard
Like the Barbary leopard
Secretarybird was on the top of the community's most wanted list
Yet we never got it
(This is very biased)
Algerian animals need more rep
I was abt to say Barbary lion but I forgot it's extinct
Also we already have a lion
I think a dust bath enrichment toy would be fun for some animals
Elephants and ostriches love dust baths
A punching bag enrichment for kangaroos
I would laugh at that so hard
I hope Frontier will overhauled exhibits in Planet Zoo 2.
What is overhauled
Like actually let them move around
Yeah.
Basically change altogether
Ahh
I agree
I get bored of seeing them sit there doing nothing
Infact basically just make exhibits into tiny habitats
Thats a better idea
Treat all the animals equally
What about touchpools
Able to merge them too just like in JWE2 aviaries and lagoons.
Most people seem to dislike exhibits just because they arent as exciting
YES
stingrays
Not if you want to build a insect house in your zoo.
Starfish
Sea urchins
Crabs
I am a massive fan of reptiles
I touched a lot of fun animals at the Adventure aquarium in Camden, Nj
Particularly tortoises and turtles
The Hermann's tortoise is my favourite animal ingame
Bamboo sharks, Stingrays, horseshoe crabs, and star fish
But its not that exciting due to it mostly sitting around doing idol animations
Ive they overhauled exhibits and let it walk about
I would cry tears of joy
exhibit cohabitation
Like
Would love that too
Why can only butterflies be together
That's borringgg
The bats cohabitation with sloths would be cool
Am I the only one who dislikes the walkthrough exhibits?
They just repeat animation
Belfast zoo once kept Rodrigues flying foxes with linnaeus's two toed sloths
DRACO LIZARD AS A WALKTHROUGH
since they glide
Nowadays belfast keeps the sloths with red footed tortoises
And as a fighting animation (overpopulation) they would fly into each other
So yeah exhibit cohabitation should be a thing
Idk how to explain this
But
They would like
Would love it if the animations had more depth
Imagine bats fighting over a perching spot
With their little bat claws
Yk how in jwe they have feeding animation with the other dinosaurs in the cage?
Like maybe they'll snatch food out if each others mouths
Or push eachother
Fruitbats have a weird way of urinating, if they added urinating animations to the game (for whatever bizarre reason) the bat would be a nice touch
Planet zoo should get more inspiration from irl zoos
They somewhat do already
Well, animals should be able to urinate in PZ2.
Ik they do but
Ofher than a small handful of uncommon species
This is something that ZT2 have but PZ doesn't, and yet. PZ is still regarded as a game with most alive-looking animals.
Real zoos don't cramp their exhibit animals in little glass boxes
Most of the animals ingame are mostly found in irl zoos
The exhibit is the main issue yes
Also
The boas and iguanas definitely need more space
But the current exhibits are actually quite nice for the tiny species
Indoor cages/attractions
Like the scarabs and poison frogs
Ik u can build your own
But
Its actually quite alot of space for poison frogs
Most poison frog species are about the size of a penny
Not very big critters
(Excuse the Bronx Zoo glaze)
The Bronx Zoo had this really cool attraction called jungle world in the Asia district
And
You would go inside and it was like
The most realistic artificial indoor jungle ever
And the Amur Leopard cage was so smart
Belfast zoo's monkey house allowed you to see the sleeping areas of their primates
They had nothing but a glass pane separating predator and oray
The leopard and the monkeys kind of just stared at each other
I forgot what monkey it was
Making some species more solitary would make sense too
It used to be a clouded leopard (which made wayyy more sense) but now it's an Amur leopard
Like yeah allow solitary animals like tigers or bears to tolerate having a mate with them is fine
But in the case where the female gets pregnant
They should be separated
Females get protective when they are expecting
They should add the dads eating the babies
And males tend to be cannibalistic towards young
(Joke)
When I had cats they gave birth about 3 times and we had to keep the dad away
The mom would actually hit the dad if he got too close to the kits
When our rabbit had kittens she rejected them
We tried handrearing them
But thats a difficult task
Rabbit babies are called kittens?
They sadly passed
Yep
Kits for short
I thought they were bunnies
Im not too into rodents tbh
Rabbits aint even rodents funny enough
Really?
I thought they were
Theyre in a separate group called lagomorpha
Ah
Only other animals in the group are hares and pika
I thought pika was a mouse?
Its essentially a tiny screaming mountain rabbit
I also heard that guinea pigs were cavids? (Also including capybaras I think)
Cavids are infact a family of rodents
Still making the capybara the worlds largest rodent
Rodents are a bizarre group honestly
Cavie not cavids
Many different types
Oh goodness is 1:24
I lost track of time lol
5:24 for me
Did you pull an all nighter?
Imma head to sleep
Yeah me too
Cya
Cya
Nice talking
You were always number 1 rin 🫶
Bird perches would be cool
Overhaul the peafowl to let the fly and perch
Greater flamingo, mute swan, sussex chicken and red crowned crane should be able to fly too
Yes chickens and peafowl technically fly
Its just for a short distance
And not very high
Its used as a last resort if a predators is close to grabbing them
Or if they just want to go somewhere higher
Like a tree
Chickens also having a perching ability
Nest building would be neat for the birds too
Flamingo nest just for an example
Either make it an option for you to place down the nest as an item
Or have them build it out of materials in the enclosure
Add more "Animal and Guest" interactions like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBXna8qtDQ
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Lion trying to attack baby at zoo
This male lion pounced as soon as we put our 10 month old daughter down in front of the glass alone. She is oblivious, but he seems pretty serious!
Like actually let the animals get annoyed at guests
Because zoo guests irl can be annoying to watch honestly
Especially the whole thing going on with moo deng
This one would be cool too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs88v7pov_4
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Tiger Tug of War at Roosevelt Park Zoo, watch who won
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Keeper and animal interactions would be neat too
Like scrubbing a gator's back with a brush
Very true ☝️
iirc there was a couple of artworks of ui design where its shown that animal could have bond with keeper, sadly didnt go into the game 😔
Which one?
Also, why the best features always got cut.
Idk tbh if i can find it
Make bird poop white
And make this a guest
If I saw her in my zoo I would think she was a sunbear who escaped her cage
Male deer should be able to shed their antlers seasonally
During ingame winter they should have no antlers (with the exception of reindeer)
Arctic fox coats should change colour based on season
Guest animal interaction through glass
make the game free (joke)
Animal personalities in a similar way to pokemon personalities (a description of what the personality is like) but they actually display the personality traits
Like example an animal thats described as lazy
And its shown napping alot
Identification tags on birds legs (wings for penguins)
Letting exhibits just function like tiny habitats
I dont like that exhibit animals just stand around stationary repeating the same idol animation (with the exception of walkthrough who have repeated flight patterns)
In my opinion, exhibit animals are only good when you want extra and more species in your zoo.
They're much less living than habitat animals.
Also, they should implemented free flight to Walkthrough Exhibit species.
Better choices for co habitation. Bonus points if you have exhibits ina safari setting and meet the criteria for a whole biome and it's food chain. Ie lion at top all the way to gazelle and grass on the bottom.
And mechanics for upkeep on grass and foliage for harder difficulties. Nothing on easy, water on medium and fertilizer and so on for hard or hard-core mods
Make it that other than species that require plant coverage
Animals dont need plants from their Continent
And a just fine with random local shrubs or trees
Example a plains zebra being fine with a bramble bush
Would make temporary enclosure placements easier if you dont have anywhere to put a new animal
Make animals wake up at specific times of the day
Example actually make them behave nocturnal or diurnal
they already do this
nocturnal animals tend to just never sleep though tbf
It'd be cool if there were lights that could change depending on the time or whether the zoo was open
and animals slept or woke up depending on the light
Not really
thay do though
All the animals sleep whenever and wake when ever
Diurnal animals are awake at night
Nocturnals are awake at day
every animals has a diurnal/nocturnal value
that affects when they sleep
its not set in stone though
Kinda like real life but they are more often than not awake all the time and sleep whenever
diurnal animals work pretty well though, nocturnal ones just never sleep though yeah
Ive seen nocturnals sleep
Main issue
tbh i dont m,ind since it lets us have pretend indoor exhibits with day/night cycles switched
Not during the day
Any animal that uses the burrows has a sleeping animation
I've seen red foxes and european badgers sleep
yeah but they almost never do
The issue is they dont exclusively sleep during the day
Scenery Brush like in PC2 or either, Frontier should add that feature to PZ in its future free update since the game's support isn't ended yet.
Better designed barriers so we dont have to rely on custom builds to make it look good
Rare random events like guests may fall inside the dangerous animal habitats like tiger habitats, they will get injured by the dangerous animals. However, the security guards or caretakers or either zookeepers will came to save them. However, the long the time take to rescue them. They will get more injured and you will have to paid more for their injuries. They technically cannot die from dangerous animal attacks since PZ2 might be rated for Everyone just like its previous game.
Also, more interspecies interaction like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBQSXYn1cd4
Not a fan of this idea at all
If guests fall into enclosure it shows how insecure the enclosure is
And irl
The animal has to die
If the guest is harmed or near it
This reminded me of Harambe.
It's not just harambe
Alot of "dangerous" zoo animals have been killed to protect guests who have fallen in
Mostly carnivores
In carnivores cases alot of people use the logic of "it has a taste for human blood now"
As the reason to kill it
I've thinking that transqualizers should be used but from what i've heard, transqualizers actually take minutes to work effectively and it'll just make the animal more angry thus put the guest's life in further danger before the transqualizer effect triggered.
Tranq darts are commonly used on escaped animals
But from what I have heard
Chimps are almost always shot dead
They are the most unpredictable and aggressive when shot with darts
More freedom and fast-paced to placing animals in Sandbox mode as a option, like you can just place an animal in the habitat and it will spawned instantly in the habitat without the need of a caretaker and a trade center.
Like the jwe method
You can choose what spot in the enclosure the animal is placed
More quality-of-life animal behaviors like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHdTto2ICfM
Less of a need for donation boxes would be nice, most zoos I’ve been to only have like one.
C'mon, Frontier. If you're still updating PZ, please add the Forage Brush to the PZ.
God give me jwe pathing.
I would only like that if it was interchangeable for the PZ pathing
Ye that is actually a great addition
Nest boxes and kennels for smaller animals
Not all small animals use the burrows but look goofy as hell in the larger shelters made for things like gazelle
This is basically what i mean
My local zoo uses small huts like these for coati, red pandas, prairie dogs, porcupines and meerkats
1. Small attention to detail which animals can peeing like ZT2 even if it doesn't impact gameplay much, it just make the game more alive.
2. Able to feed the animals by yourself like refilling their foods or enrichments without the need of the zookeepers.
3. Zookeepers and animals can also form bonds and having relationships.
4. Usable ladders for zookeepers.
I'd like to see
- scaling in decor objects
- Habitat management similar to how it's done in exhibits (auto sell/store)
- an option to search for animals in trade centre that aren't base coat (search for albino, melanisitic etc.)
- expanded trade centre storage, I think the amount of animals you can store is really limited
- live feeder enrichment like in zoo tycoon 2 when you could drop live fish into the water for predators
- and of course birds / aquariums
- A direct market trade option so you can trade with friends
- Fix the bl**dy path mechanics
I don't want to be cruel here, just want some consequences for the game.
if you set the animals with unfitting temperatures for too long (example is putting lion in a cold habitat) then they'll eventually die.
They do that in game already
Welfare gets lower they die
One thing that would be cool in PZ2.
If the view of the animals from an guest which are either bad or they can't even tell which animal is that and also assuming if there's no education boards in the habitat, they could mistake it for another animal.
Like they could mistake a gharial for a saltwater crocodile.
Das a cool idea
I'd say temperature should only affect certain species to some degree
Mostly just reptiles
As captive mammals seem to tolerate colder conditions regardless of their country of origin
Lions included
Yeah that’s not really how mammals work
Exactly my point
Mammals arent bothered by temperature
Its mostly reptiles
And amphibians
But certain birds are bothered by it
Although rarely mammals are bothered by cold
Some gibbons particularly need their hands moisturised due to low humidity in the air in captivity
Sloths legit need heat and humidity to digest food
I would say they are bothered, but it’s not bad for their health
I mean yeah
We are mammals
We dont like it too hot or too cold
But it doesn't straight kill us
Unless dangerous levels
I think a different animal trading system would be nice (still also keeping the others) where you can trade animals like many zoos do. And you need to trade the animal for an animal/animals of the same appeal. It would make gameplay much more interesting imo.
Number input box which you can enter the number of how many male/female animals you wants to buy at the one same time.
Also, add the predatory mechanics to the chimpanzees.
Change the lemur animations
Other than the sifaka they are all based on the ring tailed lemur model
The main issue with this
You meaning red and black lemurs all have the same ring-tailed lemur animations?
Yes
But nvm
Ignore that
I was gonna complain about the meditation thing
Which is a behaviour i previously only knew ringtails to do irl
But
This ruffed lemur proved me wrong
Im aware of the reason ring-tailed lemurs do this
Its a form of sunbathing to get a bit of heat from the sun
So i assume other lemurs donit for the same reason
Even the blacks do it too
Honestly though
If i was to choose a thing to change with the lemurs
Allow them to do this on climbing frames if they dont already
Making Interspecies mixing way more consequential aside from "intimidation" and "predation" like big herbivores like elephants, black rhinoceros and hippopotamus has the capacity and potentially of killing and injuring other herbivores and maybe even carnivores.
Its not even a maybe with carnivores
Elephants, rhinos and hippos can and definitely will kill a carnivore
That's one of the changes i wanted most for PZ2, herbivores should be able to fight, injure and kill carnivores.
Buffalo and Sable Antelopes should be able to kill and injure lions too.
Other than the gazelles i think most of the african herbivores have a decent chance in a one on one fight with a lion
This includes zebras and ostriches
Yes they dont have horns or tusks
But they are famous for their strong kicks
Giraffes too even
I think the main reason combat isnt a thing with herbivores is due to the fact they need to make it realistic
Still, they should make herbivores able to kill carnivores.
In order to do that they need to do research and study references
Which means actually watching the animals fight
Due to prey's fight or flight responce
Fighting is rare
And in some cases
The species dont live in the same location in the wild
In order to get realistic reference to study
Youd need to pit two animals that shouldnt interact together
Which is fucking immoral and illegal
So yeah realistic reference for giraffe vs grizzly bear is impossible without committing an actual crime
Hence why they just went with the easier route of making the prey timid around predators
Sorry that was long
Make it easier to build pools for aquatic animals like crocodiles, maybe the blueprints or something.
basically like this but it's simpler and easier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-iGub4upaw
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I’m sure it’s legal in some country
Not saying that makes it right
Maybe an up-to-date zoopedia (updating each new version if necesary) to make zoopedias info more reliable as time goes on
And more accurate info
Since the fact that Wisen doesn't show located at the Iberian peninsula makes me feel that Frontier isn't always accurate with the info
The european badger needs updated too
Since the european badger and caucasian badger became classed as separate species last i checked
And they still include the caucasian badger's range as part of the european badger's range
Well that's the point
The game is sold also with the message of educating about the animal world but at the end there're still lots of details missing without being corrected
In some cases like the giraffes and dingo its understandable
Its heavily debated whether or not dingo is its own species, a subspecies of timber wolf or just a lineage of domestic dog
So its scientific name differs alot
Canis lupus dingo
Canis dingo
Canis familiaris dingo
Canis lupus familiaris
Canis familiaris
These are all the possible scientific names for the dingo
Thats how heavily debated it is
Giraffes were only recently reclassed as atleast 4 different species
But some authorities still treat it like a singular species
Reticulated giraffe if you go with the multiple species classification
Giraffa reticulata
But ingame since they use the single species taxonomy
Giraffa camelopardalis reticulata
It's obvious that there are some complex cases, but others can just be updated once a while
Timber wolf biome preferences do need a little change
They have it down as temperate, taiga and tundra
Which isnt wrong
But they forget some populations live in grasslands and deserts
Some aquatic animals shouldn't able to swimming at their baby stage until they reached their adulthood, like the beavers.
Penguins
Specifically penguins
Some times of seals including sea lions are know to swim a little in shallows when they are little, but thats just in preparation for later in life
Also some animals could have teenaging phases separed to cubs, chicks etc
One example wpuld be flamingoes, chicks that does not go deep on water and teenagers which can follow adults but not mating with others yet
Or something with teenaging lions
And their mid grown manes
Maybe too many data demanding for every animal so wpuld be certain species mechanic
Zebra and P's Horse should have interspecies enrichments.
Interspecies enrichment is based on if the species live in the same ecosystem naturally and get along quite well
By the logic of "they should have interspecies enrichment because zoos keep them together irl"
Still not forgetting that some interspecies enrichments in the game are bad and ridiculous, like the chimpanzee and the red river hog.
Means quite literally nearly every animal should give eachother interspecies enrichment
So, i just realized that in PZ. If you put any animals together without interspecies enrichments, it can causing stresses especially to neutral and shy animals. I put flamingos together with pygmy hippos and the flamingos are stressed, so i removed the pygmy hippos and flamingos are no longer stressed.
Just because they can be kept together does not mean they will benefit eachother
To be honest, you would get "Predation is occuring" notifications if you tried the first and last one in Planet Zoo.
Deliberately showing the worst mixed species habitats i csn find to prove why species from different continents/biomes should not benefit eachother
To be honest, i hope Frontier will make the Interspecies mixing and enrichments way more realistic and consequently in PZ2.
Interspecies enrichment should again as ive stated multiple times
Only apply to animals from the same continent and biome that would naturally get along decently together with little issue
This being an example we could have
Removing interspecies enrichments between some animals like:
Prairie Dog and Bison
Chimpanzee and Red River Hog
A little confused as to why dama gazelle and african spurred tortoise benefit eachother
Ones a fast running hoofed mammal and the other is a short slow moving critter
If the gazelle runs and trips over a tortoise that could go wrong
I guess im just a paranoid analysist that analyses what can go wrong
Which another interspecies enrichment you would also remove in PZ2?
Yo forget capybara being chill
Red river hogs are the real chill dudes
If i were to choose an interspecies enrichment to add ingame
It would be if we had african waterfowl
Like ducks
Give them enrichment with the flamingoes
Flamingoes get on fine with other water dwelling birds
Like pelicans and herons
Sadly 😔
Subspecies selection like in Prehistoric Kingdom.
Also, gharial should spend more than 75% of their times in water.
Also, gharial's movement need to be changed as well. They don't walk like crocodiles and alligators in reality, they move like seals in reality.
We already have subspecies
Arctic wolf is a subspecies of timber wolf
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Gharial (Gavialis gangeticus)
The gharial (Gavialis gangeticus), also called Indian gavial or gaviaisl, is the only surviving member of the once well-represented family Gavialidae, a long-established group of crocodilians with long, slender snouts. The gharial is listed as a critically endangered species by IUCN.
The gharial is one of the three crocodilians found in India,...
I mean it looks awkward but i wouldn't say this movement style is seal like
It quite literally just walks like a lower to the ground crocodile
Crocs tend to keep their belly of the ground
Gharial took laziness to the next level and just belly drags
Yeah no similarities at all
So, it's a myth that Gharial had to slide their bellies to move on land.
I mean its technically sliding but they are still using their legs to drag themselves
No, pk has system when you unlock an animal it has several skins, that may be different species and even genera, it allows animal to have different models, like iirc when you unlock trex you get access to 3 skins, one of them is tarbosaurus(not trex exact species) and the other one is feathered one unlike other skins
Okay i like that idea but dont like the idea of a seperate species literally just being a skin
Would allow for variety with grizzly and himalayan just being skins of the same bear
They started doing exactly that recently(?)
Like they separated american and eurasian lions
The game is in early access so stuff changes
American and eurasian cave lion were recently reclassed
Panthera atrox and Panthera spelaea
And then exist the fact that Warthhogs and meerkats doesn't hace interpespecues enrichment
Man, the Timon and Pumba duo was based on their good relationships
In terms of animal choice
They are actually based on the symbiotic relationship between warthogs and banded mongoose
But i get the idea
Warthogs get along well with mongoose in general
Despite being a pig and pigs often eat small animals, warthogs seem to have a preference for vegetation
Mostly grasses and roots
By this logic all animals should be locked up in cells 1 by 1 for safety
Small animals are nimble they can run away when needed
Keeper can add supplements
If they dont get along reparating exhibits or putting one of them in other one
Also another thing about docile animals
I mean
It has logic that the animals that you can set free on nature are the ones with the enough instincts
But that leaves paid animals without any interesting mechanics
I'd go that captivity animals have higher chances of being more docile and tolerate other members whenever it's not the alpha
This is actually how it mostly works last i checked
To prevent fighting or killings the animals are well fed
They might squabble a bit over specific food
But thats about it
Unfertilice could be also an advantage in case of males
Reminds me of some spec evo where most animals are kept in zoos and are bred to be more docile and easy to handle
I think many people would do that
In franchise
As they mostly fight for mating, and caused by hormones (bears, lions, buffalos etc.). But I'd prefer the docile animals idea, since captivity could be a factor to breed animal more used to some rational captivity conditions
And more interesting than just unballing them
I like the jwe2 idea of traits like intelligent that makes animal more appealing but more hard to keep because it escapes more often
Yeah
The idea is more or less done
Why not applying it to Planet Zoo?
Orangutans would be a nightmare
It would also be cool if certain traits made certain animals more likely to use specific enrichment toys
Intelligence would make the apes use the puzzle feeder more
I think its cool
Like ken allen, he made san diego zoo very popular
A lot of people came to see him
But yeah personalities would be cool
Personalities would make them do specific behaviours more
Lazy animals tend to just nap alot
Grumpy animals chase others around
Shy animals hide more often
Bold animals investigate guests and keepers
Playful animals jump around and play with toys alot
That would be very cool
Even confident animals like elephants and penguins would have that trait?
Every individual is different
You can have shy elephants
And brave rabbits
Sometimes shy animals are more inclined to come out of their shell if they have a strong bond with a bolder animal
Dogs are seen as very confident human loving animals, but you can get shy dogs
Parents and babies interactions like animal mothers will nursing their babies, some animal mothers like crocodiles will carry babies on their back and some animal mothers will storage their foods for the babies like Wild Dogs.
I beleive gharials are the only crocodilians that do the back thing
Ive seen crocodiles carry their babies to the water in their mouth
Alligators do it too.
Just hadnt seen many crocodilians do it