Capacitor or EMW doubt

Consider a capacitor with UV light ionizing $n_{0}$ electrons per unit volume per unit second. Now each electron moves towards a plate. Given that plate 2 is at a higher potential than 1, and each electron moving ionizes $\alpha$ more electrons per unit length of the path find the number of electrons as a function of x and current density in the two plates.
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TeXit
TeXit4mo ago
SirLancelotDuLac
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SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Can also someone clarify the picture here? Shouldn't the number of electrons be a function of x and t? (Given distance between plates is d)
hithav
hithav4mo ago
Current density depends on time right What's happening is UV rays are making the plate of capacitor emit photoelectrons (No per second) and they each ionise a more electrons as they move so no of electrons will be proportional (No)(t)(a)^x x is the distance traveled t time No the no of electrons emitted per second With this you can calculate current dq/dt but I don't understand what to take as area to find current density
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Lets just discuss the first part... The uv light is ionizing the gas inside the capacitor right? So, if we have to find the exact function how would one go about it. What I tried to do was take a cylindrical element of thickness dx (Assuming plates circular), and then I got lost :thinker:
hithav
hithav4mo ago
Instead of cylindrical you could take thin cuboidal elements of thinkness dx then all the points on the cuboid would have to travel same distance to get to the other side Saying cuboid would sound wrong since they are dx thickness it's almost like a plane
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Ye like a sheet of dx thickness? Will try this once.
hithav
hithav4mo ago
Yep, could you share the answer.
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
The answer is 1 and 4
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hithav
hithav4mo ago
For the first part you can solve it buy writing the differential equation in terms of n(x)(no of electrons in that position) d(n(x))[no of electrons ionised due to electrons travelling dx length]=adx(n(x))[adx tells how many electrons have been ionised due to n(x) &n(x) tells the no of electrons originally ionised by gas at that posn]
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
But what about the electrons generated due to the UV light?
hithav
hithav4mo ago
n(x) takes them also into account
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
How so?
hithav
hithav4mo ago
n(x) denotes all the electrons at that point and d(n(x)) denotes the electrons due to those points moving a dx length
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
The gas between the capacitor plates separated by a distance d is uniformly ionized by ultraviolet radiation so that $n{0}$ electrons per unit volume per second are formed. A constant potential difference is applied across the capacitor. These electrons moving in the electric field of the capacitor ionize the gas molecules each electrons producing $\alpha$ electrons per unit length of its path. Ionization by ions is neglected. Plate 1 is at a higher potential as compared to plate 2. Which of the following is correct? 1. The number of electrons per unit volume at a distance x from plate 2 is $n{0}e^{\alpha \cdot x}$ 2. The number of electrons per unit volume at a distance x from plate 2 is $n{0}(1+\alpha \cdot x)$ 3. The electronic current density at plate 1 is $en{0}e^{\alpha \cdot d}$ 4. The electronic density at plate 1 is $\frac{en_{0}}{\alpha}(e^{\alpha \cdot d}-1)$
TeXit
TeXit4mo ago
SirLancelotDuLac
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iTeachChem
iTeachChem4mo ago
is this a new q? start another thread na, people dont get pinged unless you do that
SirLancelotDuLac
SirLancelotDuLacOP4mo ago
Well it is the same one but yeah its resolved. +solved @hithav
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