2.4ghz/usb dongle Controllers won't reconnect after turning o

HW/SW info: Image: bazzite deck Update: the newest stable Additional HW Info: Polaris GPU (rx570) Here's the case. I play minecraft with a keyboard, and uses my controller to open QAM and Steam Menu. However, the controller turns of after beeing inactive for a while (which is expected) However, when I try to reconnect it, it vibrates as if it's connected, the light lights up as they should, but it isn't really connected. I can't use it, and after just a few seconds, the controller shuts off. The only way to get it to reconnect is if I restart the whole PC, or go into sleep mode and out again. Switching to Desktopmode doesn't work. I can't seem to see if it is consistent, as sometimes it works, but mostly it doesn't. My controller is the 8bitdo ultimate, used in 2.4ghz mode. I have also tried with a bunch of xbox 360 controllers (with the official pc-adaptor), but they won't work as well. The case there is that even if it is the 8bitdo controller that shuts off and fails to reconnect, the Xbox controllers won't connect either. I do also have a 8bitdo pro +, which is bluetooth, and it works just as expected. To sum up: 2.4ghz controllers won't reconnect after turning off I've tested both the 8bitdo ultimate and a couple of xbox 360 controllers Only fix is to restart pc/go into sleep mode and out again Bluetooth controllers still works as they should
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HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
is this the ultimate bt or ultimate (xbox face button layout) i got the ultimate bt so should be easy enough for me to try replicate this (although i have never run into it). does it also happen if you place it in the charging dock and then take it out again?
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
It is the 2,4ghz version that works with the switch via bluetooth. So Nintendo Button Layout
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
Does placing it on the dock cause the issue to happen too?
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
I'll take a look when I get home :)
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
ok, im currently sick so i might be resting when you get back to me.
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Hope you get well soon! ❤️ I've just tested putting the controller in the dock (while it's on) and taking it out again, and it connects back again as expected. My next test will be to wait for the controller to shut off, then test if it reconnects when I turn it on again, and if it doesn't, put it in the dock to see if that changes anything. So it seems to be working just fine now I changed the "Idle Gamepad Shutdown Timeout" (under "External Gamepad settings") from 120 min to 5, and I have a gut feeling that that may have been the issue. My thoughtprosess there is that the controller itself has a inbuilt shutdowntimer itself, and couldn't care less of what bazzite/steam thinks about when to shut off. So the controller shuts off itself, and when steam tries to shut it off or something, it breaks something Probably a weak theory, but time will tell I guess. I'll post here again should the issue reoccur.
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
this might be the case, i know that xinput at least does not allow remote shutdown of the controller over bluetooth, however the 2.4ghz module uses xpad which is the wired driver, and it might cause issues with that
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Let's hope that's the case :D Thank you for your help btw! And hope you get well soon ❤️
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
ty
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Well, it happened again, and docking it didn't work. Any ideas? And now it seems like bluetooth controllers also has problems. But I wonder if it may be because of my new BT-Keyboard, although turning it of doesn't allow the controllers to be reconnected... I did some reading, and found multiple both reddit and Steam community posts with similar issues, so it might just be a steam issue. I also found a kind of fix: By pressing the powerbutton on my case I put the pc into sleep, and when it turns on again after sleep, the controller works again. So I guess that's what I need to do everytime the controller decides to bail on me 🤔
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
Sorry I ended up hospitalized. Could not replicate on my system though before I got sent to the hospital today. Before that I couldn't even use the pc
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Oh no, are you okay? Wishing you the best of luck! ☺️ I hope you are feeling better. I might have found more leads to what is wrong: I watched some Netflix yesterday, and two or three times the controller shut off. BUT, instead of refusing to reconnect, it just worked when I turned it on again! This makes me think that the issue is when the keyboard is connected. Could this at all be related to the workaround for the polaris-gpus? I seem to remember that something was done to how the keyboard and mouse works in gamescope?
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
feeling a lot better, been unable to reproduce but i can guarantee it is not related to the polaris fix when we were looking into ways to make polaris still work, one of those was to make gamescope use the SDL backend for polaris, however this broke keyboard input in gamescope when using a polaris card. ultimately in the end we just compiled an older version of gamescope before their major refactor which works flawlessly with polaris and just use that gamescope-legacy version whenever a polaris card is detected and trying to boot into gamemode that way we got working polaris support and no issues with keyboards. once the polaris issue is fixed upstream then gamescope-legacy will be taken out too
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Ah, ok
once the polaris issue is fixed upstream then gamescope-legacy will be taken out too So it may be fixed in Gamescope itself? Interesting
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
may they are aware of the issue but you know valve time is a thing hence gamescope-legacy for polaris
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Yeah Well, it works, and that's what counts :)
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
schrödingers gpu support its either on life support or it will be fixed 😄
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Lol Anyways, seems like we are about as far as before on the controller-issue? I could add that I can't remember the problem ever existing when I used a wired-keyboard. Or one with a 2.4ghz dongle either It started happening after I got this new BT Keyboard... Glad you are feeling better btw 😀
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
it is an odd issue
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
I could try reinstalling bazzite, maybe I can fix the Discover-Overlay problem I have at the same time. But that would probably have to be after I'm back from a LAN-party I'm going to tomorrow...
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
reinstalling will do nothing
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Couldn't I have messed up some driver or smth?
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
and the discover-overlay issue would 100% be in the user folder drivers are in the image, we all use the same image
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Good point...
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
bazzite, bazzite-deck, etc
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
:) Yeah So I'm more or less stuck then?
HikariKnight
HikariKnight2mo ago
yeah since i cannot replicate it, i dont even own a bt keyboard (mainly because i hate them) so i cant test to see if its a weird thing with just any bt keyboard and the controller
NotQfThisWorld
NotQfThisWorldOP2mo ago
Well, thanks for the help anyways 😀. The sleep-button trick works pretty good, so that's my fix for now ☺️
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