Crashing when launching or playing a game

PC is crashing when launching or playing a game Intially the screen will go black no audio or input. USB peripherals will disconnect, and eventually the PC will reboot itself. normal tasks are able to complete fine this is only when playing a game. Hardware: 7600x Ryzen CPU 7800xt xfx graphics card NZXT B650E mobo on latest bios Corsair 750x PSU (Bought it in 2018 so it is older but seems to be working still to my knowledge at least) 64GB of Crucial Micron Pro RAM @5600MHz I am asking anyone that can or is willing to help me troubleshoot as I have tried everything that I know to try. I am lost on anymore ideas and am looking to see if there is something that I missed in logs or troubleshooting. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
GitHub
Games are freezing causing entire system to lock up and hard reboot...
Describe the bug I haven't been able to find a pattern as of yet, and logs haven't been helpful. The behavior is the same regardless though. I launch into a game (The one that I have been s...
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I am adding the link to the memtest since I am back and starting to get a usb ready so that I can verify memory
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/home" already exists and is not a directory.
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/srv" already exists and is not a directory.
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/root" already exists and is not a directory.
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/home" already exists and is not a directory.
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/srv" already exists and is not a directory.
Sep 15 14:08:27 FractalBazzite systemd-tmpfiles[3489]: "/root" already exists and is not a directory.
these sound scary to me lmao
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
GitHub
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CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Yeah its weird..I will add that I am seeing this on a new install as well I recently tried reinstalling and I am seeing those exact same logs in this install too
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
as in, completely fresh and no modifications? 👀 those are your journalctl -b -1 -e -k logs?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
journalctl -b -1 -p err I believe the kernel logs are showing errors relating to my usb hubs that I have connected to the PC they resolve themselves, at least I think they do since they are functioning until the crash which is when they disconnect
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
oh wait, why are you on bazzite-deck
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I was wanting to have the game mode
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
huh. Idk enough about bazzite to know if bazzite-deck is supported on desktop tbh
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I think it is since
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
out of curiosity, if you're re-installing anyways, can you try the AMD version from the website's dropdown? could be
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Oh I am So the drop down I am selecting everything that relates, just when I select the steam game mode is when it shifts to the bazzite deck image but this happens in the desktop mode and the game mode (SteamOS Frontend), so I think that this will happen with the desktop image too
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
oh facinating, I didn't get the Steam Gaming mode option XD maybe my hardware just doesn't support it lmao ok, so its not that then
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
lol I was on Nobara before bazzite and I was running the game mode there too, the main thing that I think will make it incompatible is Nvidia but I could be very wrong
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
nah, I'm AMD too, so idk what makes the diff
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
🤷‍♂️ I am not able to build the memtest. No ld command found. but every package that I have tried to install seems to already have the package I am going to try to build it on my mac to see if results differ Managed to get the memtest to go and I got it running now
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
the best thing to do is run memtest by booting it and not building it yourself
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
That is what I did I booted into it after getting an img Just an fyi I checked temps earlier when I got back. The pc was idling for about an hour so and all temps were below 42C CPU was at 41C GPU was at 40C And GPU mem was at 58C
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
noice
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Gpu mem was the only outlier Got through address mode with 100% passing Currently at 50% through the block tests I don’t think it’s the memory since the test was repeating 3 other times and it passed the first time
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
Just curious, have you tried the gnome version?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
No I haven’t
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
I'm wondering if we're looking at a Bazzite bug, a KDE bug, or a mesa bug If it's Bazzite or mesa, it'll most likely happen in gnome. If it's KDE, it'll not happen Can you get a pastebin of journalctl -k? It'll include kernel errors
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I just tested again to see if I could find something in logs...I have this stack trace so...progress?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
These are the logs after the stack trace:
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
The dump is from gamescope wayland...I wonder if these are similar to the kwin bug that I saw on here earlier but I would think that it would say kwin so I could be just speculating here. I just tried without gamescope and it crashed again so I don’t think that’s it
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
it would be helpful to have the entire log. Can you boot, cause nothing but the crash, then do journalctl -b -1 -k then put the log into a pastebin? https://pastebin.com
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CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Yeah sure thing will do after I get off this afternoon Just got home and at the puter. Should have some logs here in a sec Just crashed and it’s now rebooting
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Pastebin
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Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
weird, I don't really see any errors in there
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Same I am glad I am not the only one So I guess its not hardware?
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
I've gott literally no idea 😅 sorry
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Thank you for your help though! I have been dealing with this for about 3 weeks now and I am just glad someone offered their time
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
for sure 👍 its weird tho that the last thing in the kernel logs is just that your mouse connected
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Yeah it seems some of the stuff is from the boot up into the next session after the crash since some services are starting
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
shouldn't be tho, you definately did the -b -1 thing, yeah? The times seem to line up
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
yeah I did the -b -1 -k flags
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
the -b -1 tells journalctl to load up the previous boot's logs
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
yep
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
-k is for kernel messages so like i don't understand why it just kind of cuts off like that
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I dont know either and it honestly is frustrating. I just want to play diablo with friends since this is computer with my discord setup I will note that this WAS happening on another desktop that I have....I thought it was related to the controllers that were being connected (At the time it was connected to a DualSense controller)
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
oh btw, did you try the Gnome version?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I started connecting the Xbox controller to launch and then switch and it stopped doing it from then on Oh no I havent Let me check something before rebasing
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
without any errors in journalctl, idk what else to do besides just try a different DE lmao
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
lmao fair I should just have to rebase right? or am I needing to install the os again?
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
I suppose? Straight up, I tried bazzite for the first time less than a week ago lmao but I know what stuff people wanted me to try with my issue, so I'm parroting now XD i think rebasing should work yeah, though I think the dotfiles in your home directory expect KDE, so you might have some stuff not work, idk
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
This is a fresh install since I nuked my last one since I was thinking it could be a bad install or something so I have nothing on this drive outside of my browser and discord
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
i mean if you're not worried about things breaking, might as well try just a rebase haha and if things still don't work, try a reinstall I might try not doing a game-mode one too just in case there's something weird going on there, but honestly idk what any of those actually have that are different from one another basicaly just spit-ballin here at this point XD
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
All good man. I dont think that would be an issue since they are two separate DEs so to speak at least according to my understanding I could be wrong myself
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
gnome and KDE? yeah for sure. I think the only stuff that would break is like maybe theming or something as I understand it, when you install oneor the other, the /home/ directory's ~/.config directory has some stuff pertaining to either Gnome or KDE, so rebasing might mess some of that up since a rebase doesn't touch your home dir as for game-mode, no clue
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Universal Blue
Rebasing on Bazzite
This is the old documentation, please view the new documentation. ] What is Rebasing? Attention: Do not rebase between different desktop environments. Rebasing allows users to switch to a different image without having to reinstall and lose personal files and application data. It is recommended to use the Bazzite Rollback Helper utility. ...
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Switching desktop is the first thing mentioned...not supported lmao
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
Attention: Do not rebase between different desktop environments.
ah, so maybe not then XD
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
lol thing is the HTPC that was doing this before is identical to this one minus some of the hardware
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
I was really glad gamescope fixed my issue, because I was not looking forward to havingg to reinstall
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
The game-mode I think is all gamescope its handled by the steam client I could be wrong but that is how I think it works...
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
yeah beats me XD I know game mode isn't supported on my hardware, but gamescope works just fine maybe game mode is kind of a SteamOS-looking thing? to make it look a bit more like a console
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
yeah that is what it is but it has some other added features brought over from the holo iso
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
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Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
that looks dope as hell
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
^^ yeah that the game mode
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
it's like a better big-picture-mode?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
pretty much but you get addons through plugins too so you can change the look or add certain features
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
niiiiiiice can't imagine that's causingg your issues, but couldn't hurt to check anyways tbh
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I tried in kde too and its the same issue
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
oh like regular non game-mode kde?
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
@CyberZombySquid since it's game specific you own it on steam?
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
I tried in KDE with and without gamescope on and the game mode. I also tried a bunch of launch commands from proton db Yepper
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
PROTON_LOG=1 %command% as a launch option launch it, crash it, log gets made in your home dir
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Ok will try that I am uploading the log to the github issue Its too large to upload but I just went through it and this is what I got out of it The only error was this one: ERROR: ld.so: object '/run/host/usr/lib/extest/libextest.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored. BUT I did see this not sure if this could be something? 175.972:00d4:00d8:err:xrandr:xrandr14_get_adapters Failed to get adapters 175.987:00d4:00d8:err:xrandr:xrandr14_get_adapters Failed to get adapters 176.020:00d4:00d8:err:xrandr:xrandr14_get_adapters Failed to get adapters 176.028:00d4:00d8:err:xrandr:xrandr14_get_adapters Failed to get adapters
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
None of those are errors I need the full log
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Let me see if I can upload to drive or something and share the link
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
pastebin is good for these just as a temp thing, you can do cat <file> | fpaste that link only lasts 24 hours tho really wish there was a way to fpaste for longer than that for debug purposes
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Ill do pastebin...though the file is 35MB too large for pastebin lmao
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
it's text, try zipping it should be tiny
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
omg I feel so dumb.
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
if it drops below 25mb I think you can just upload to discord directly too actually
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
lmao didnt even think to archive it
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
for some reason discord wont let me upload 😐 shared it on github Here is the link: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/issues/1673#issuecomment-2354238642
GitHub
Games are freezing causing entire system to lock up and hard reboot...
Describe the bug I haven't been able to find a pattern as of yet, and logs haven't been helpful. The behavior is the same regardless though. I launch into a game (The one that I have been s...
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
what's the format of your external drive?
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
GitHub
Overwatch 2 (2357570) · Issue #7033 · ValveSoftware/Proton
Compatibility Report Name of the game with compatibility issues: Overwatch 2 Steam AppID of the game: 2357570 System Information GPU: GTX 1070 Video driver version: NVIDIA 535.86.05 Kernel version:...
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
here's someone else with your exact same issue
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Sorry for the late response - ext4 I believe let me verify
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
Not the issue then Check the thread, there may be a fix for your problem there First I've seen this so they are best equipped to help you there
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
ahhh I think I see a potential solution...one sec lemme try Yeah I think I know what the issue is Or was I think it was a combo of some power cable extensions and I think those were messed up because of a loose power connector on the gpu. I’m going to retry in the morning to verify if they still work but I was able to play Diablo for 30 minutes which is the longest time on this desktop I feel so silly
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
Man don't feel that bad, I had a bad riser cable on an old rig Impossible to tell it was broken, so I just had random BSODs for a good 6 months until I figured out what it was Computers fucking suck
Raevenant
Raevenant2mo ago
daaang, down to the hardware! Glad you figured it out! 😄
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
Thanks! For the help from both of yall I’m going to test it more today to verify that it is indeed fixed I love tech but I always tell my wife that my next venture is going to be barber or carpenter
Kyle Gospo
Kyle Gospo2mo ago
Goose farmer
CyberZombySquid
CyberZombySquidOP2mo ago
They’ll all be silly too lmao
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