C#•4mo ago

Question about reactivity in Blazor

Hi, I'm working on a Blazor project. I have some experience with C# in general and professionally I work with Angular. Specifically Angular recently tackled a big issue with reactivity with Signals. Before that I often used RxJS, and in .Net a similar implementation of RxJS is System.Reactive. In Blazor I do not fully understand how the reactivity works out of the box, without using any additional libraries. The goal of the project is to be able to parse replays of the game Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance and to show various information about the replay on different pages. Just like in Angular, one can use a service to deal with data that needs to exist across pages. To set that up, in program.cs I have the following snippet to make sure the replay service is a singleton:

builder.Services.AddSingleton<ReplayService>();

builder.Services.AddSingleton<ReplayService>();

The replay service itself is quite simple, just a C# class that uses a library to load in the replay from a binary blob:

namespace FAForever.Replay.Viewer.Services
{
    public class ReplayService
    {
        
        public Replay? Replay { get; set; }

        public void LoadReplay(MemoryStream stream)
        {
            this.Replay = ReplayLoader.LoadFAFReplayFromMemory(stream);
        }
    }
}

namespace FAForever.Replay.Viewer.Services
{
    public class ReplayService
    {
        
        public Replay? Replay { get; set; }

        public void LoadReplay(MemoryStream stream)
        {
            this.Replay = ReplayLoader.LoadFAFReplayFromMemory(stream);
        }
    }
}

Now, in a Blazor page I can do the following and that appears to work just fine:

@page "/"
@inject ReplayService replayService;

<PageTitle>Home</PageTitle>

<h1>Hello, world!</h1>

@if (replayService.Replay != null)
{
    <p role="status">Current count: @replayService.Replay.Events.Count</p>
}
else
{
    <p role="status">No replay loaded</p>
}

<p>@UserInputCount</p>


<InputFile OnChange="HandleFileSelected" /><br />

@code {

    private int UserInputCount = 0;

    public async Task HandleFileSelected(InputFileChangeEventArgs args)
    {
        if (args.File.Name.ToLower().EndsWith(".fafreplay"))

        {
            IBrowserFile file = args.File;
            MemoryStream stream = new MemoryStream();
            await file.OpenReadStream(4 * 512000).CopyToAsync(stream).ConfigureAwait(false);
            stream.Position = 0;
            replayService.LoadReplay(stream);
            if (replayService.Replay != null){
                UserInputCount = replayService.Replay.Events.Count;
            } else  {
                UserInputCount = -1;
            }
        }
    }
}

@page "/"
@inject ReplayService replayService;

<PageTitle>Home</PageTitle>

<h1>Hello, world!</h1>

@if (replayService.Replay != null)
{
    <p role="status">Current count: @replayService.Replay.Events.Count</p>
}
else
{
    <p role="status">No replay loaded</p>
}

<p>@UserInputCount</p>


<InputFile OnChange="HandleFileSelected" /><br />

@code {

    private int UserInputCount = 0;

    public async Task HandleFileSelected(InputFileChangeEventArgs args)
    {
        if (args.File.Name.ToLower().EndsWith(".fafreplay"))

        {
            IBrowserFile file = args.File;
            MemoryStream stream = new MemoryStream();
            await file.OpenReadStream(4 * 512000).CopyToAsync(stream).ConfigureAwait(false);
            stream.Position = 0;
            replayService.LoadReplay(stream);
            if (replayService.Replay != null){
                UserInputCount = replayService.Replay.Events.Count;
            } else  {
                UserInputCount = -1;
            }
        }
    }
}

However, in the navigational menu I want to hide some items until there is a replay in the service. It won't make a lot of sense to show the build orders tab when there is no replay. So I wrote it as such:

@inject ReplayService replayService;

(...)

<div class="@NavMenuCssClass nav-scrollable" @onclick="ToggleNavMenu">
    <nav class="flex-column">

        (...)

        @if (replayService.Replay != null)
        {
            <div class="nav-item px-3">
                <NavLink class="nav-link" href="chat">
                    <span class="bi bi-activity" aria-hidden="true"></span> Build orders
                </NavLink>
            </div>
        }
    </nav>
</div>

@inject ReplayService replayService;

(...)

<div class="@NavMenuCssClass nav-scrollable" @onclick="ToggleNavMenu">
    <nav class="flex-column">

        (...)

        @if (replayService.Replay != null)
        {
            <div class="nav-item px-3">
                <NavLink class="nav-link" href="chat">
                    <span class="bi bi-activity" aria-hidden="true"></span> Build orders
                </NavLink>
            </div>
        }
    </nav>
</div>

Now back to reactivity - I noticed that the page updates immediately once the replay is loaded. All good there. But the navigational menu is only updated after interacting with it in some fashion, such as by clicking on it. That's of course not what I want - once a replay is available, it should update automatically. Secretly I was hoping that Blazor was as reactive as the Angular Signals, without the boilerplate of an RxJS-like library. But the current behavior is not sufficient. Where can I read up about reactivity in Blazor, and in general, why is the navigational menu not updating in my example? And should I still use a reactive library? Or am I just making a rookie mistake? 😄

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14 Replies

Joschi•4mo ago

The problem is, that your parent component / layout cannot know that your state has changed. A simple but heavy handed approach would be to call StateHasChanged() after loading the file inside your page code. But there are nearly always better solutions. I suspect establishing an CascadingParameter wrapping your entire app instead of using a service may work.

JipOP•4mo ago

Are you referring to this: - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/components/cascading-values-and-parameters

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Joschi•4mo ago

Yes, but thats just a guess.

JipOP•4mo ago

I'm trying to understand it, thank you for your time. I'm reading up on this: - https://chrissainty.com/understanding-cascading-values-and-cascading-parameters/ I think cascading values work between components that are in a hierarchy. But my service is injected and therefore not part of the hierarchy. I'm trying to apply it there too, but it's not quite working out. You mentioned that StateHasChanged is a heavy-handed approach, what makes you say that?

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JipOP•4mo ago

Oh wait, maybe I missunderstood the cascading parameters. Let me re-try.

JipOP•4mo ago

Maybe this is what I need: - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/components/cascading-values-and-parameters?view=aspnetcore-8.0#root-level-cascading-values But work is calling, I'll look at it later today again 🙂

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JipOP•4mo ago

There's also this: - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/state-management?view=aspnetcore-8.0&pivots=server#in-memory-state-container-service

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JipOP•4mo ago

Mmhh: https://pharaz.com/2021/02/23/blazor-reactivity

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Joschi•4mo ago

https://jonhilton.net/blazor-rendering/ Maybe this is of interest. Tbh I may just misremember an article I have read some time ago, about StateHasChanged being quite expensive. Need to read more about ist myself.

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JipOP•4mo ago

Article is book marked, I'm also looking at: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUOimtP78jQ

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JipOP•4mo ago

This article is excellent and it helped a lot with understanding change detection I also understand now why you mentioned calling StateHasChanged manually, since that is what happens in the background I also now better understand why this library exists: - https://github.com/phorks/phork-blazor-reactivity/ And in action: - https://github.com/phorks/phork-blazor-reactivity/blob/main/docs/IN-ACTION.md I do feel this perhaps should've been part of Blazor to begin with 🤔 , it requires a lot of boiler plate to have global state in the current default setup I've implemented the Phork library, see also: - https://github.com/Garanas/scfa-cs-replay/pull/3/commits/69330fb632854a457b1481c2c06078680f44cb87 Using the getting started guide (the readme) and the action guide of the repository. It now works as I'd expect it to and the syntax is relatively minimal Thank you @Joschi for taking the time for this little journey here, I'd like to credit you in the readme. Is there a name that you'd like me to use, or shall I go with your Discord tag? Assuming here that you'd like to be mentioned 🙂

Joschi•4mo ago

Thanks for offering. I don't think that you have to credit me for writing a few tidbits and throwing you a link. But if you insist feel free to link my github account. https://github.com/JoschiZ

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JipOP•4mo ago

I've mentioned you in the credits section of the readme: https://github.com/Garanas/scfa-cs-replay I may update to make it look better in the future 🙂 I'll be keeping track of various references that I found useful on the Wiki: - https://github.com/Garanas/scfa-cs-replay/wiki/Blazor And the page exists and is 'functional': - https://garanas.github.io/scfa-cs-replay/ Where 'functional' means that all the complicated unknowns are resolved, and now it's about filling in the details 😄

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A library to read and interpret replay files of Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance (Forever) - Garanas/scfa-cs-replay

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A library to read and interpret replay files of Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance (Forever) - Garanas/scfa-cs-replay

JipOP•4mo ago

Thanks again!

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