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Sandboxels Player or Prop Tool
rival-black•5mo ago
let's go
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
yeah the player controls prop tool
rival-black•5mo ago
you can't change the player with prop tool
the prop tool is controlled by the player
xenial-black•5mo ago
no
what if
prop tool was uh
better
and cooler
what if it got updated to be better and cooler
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
technically it can crash the game
and it was at one point way more powerful than cursor
yammering-amber•5mo ago
prop tool was able to prevent the cursor from doing anything at one point in time
the cursor still cant do anything against a rogue prop tool
assuming the prop tool is controlling itself like we have been for all the other polls
yes it is controlling itself
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
if it's controlling itself the cursor can literally do nothing about it
extended-salmon•5mo ago
But can't the cursor just close the browser?
yammering-amber•5mo ago
i assume the cursor is limited to sandboxels actions
instead of overall browser actions
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Ok
eastern-cyan•5mo ago
we voted ourselves
cool
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
rival-black•5mo ago
isn't that a mod
rah
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
mods don't count
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
the cursor can enable it
so normally no
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
mods are not a part of the bracket tho unless stated otherwise
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
the cursor can reload the page
extended-salmon•5mo ago
or close the window
or terminate the task
or reinstall windows for some reason
yammering-amber•5mo ago
yammering-amber•5mo ago
wouldn't relaoding/closing browser be forfeiting the battle
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
sandboxels cursor is not a mouse cursor
extended-salmon•5mo ago
But it is directly linked to it
So it's arguably able to do stuff outside sandboxels
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
how
prop tool is controlled by the mouse too, doesn't mean it can do stuff outside of sandboxels
and it used to have way more power arguably as it was able to execute any javascript code without doing anything that could be considered cheating
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Well, the cursor in sandboxels can install mods
And one of them (nousersthings.js, i think) has runsomecode, which can do arbitrary stuff
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
mods, unless stated in the bracket, shouldnt count
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Also, the prop tool can't attack the cursor, but the cursor can just not click the prop tool
yammering-amber•5mo ago
are you assuming the cursor has to select the prop tool for it to do anything
this isnt a "stop hitting yourself" situation, its a "you can't do anything in this realm because the prop tool controls it"
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
can ryan just clarify stuff
extended-salmon•5mo ago
well, the poll has ended
But the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor, but the cursor can erase the pixel for which the property was changed
Or it's a draw, if the cursor isn't allowed to erase (the cursor can't damage the prop tool, and the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor)
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
cursor can only delete pixels, but cant do anything to prop tool itself
so its probably a draw
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Yeah
yammering-amber•5mo ago
the prop tool prevents the cursor from every playing sandboxels again
not like changing the property of a pixel can get rid of the cursor (any more, at least)
cursor gets bored of not being able to do anything and forfeits
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
it still can
i just found a new xss exploit
its even easier than the first one but it requires pausing the game
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
yammering-amber•5mo ago
oh neat how
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
charge
as long as you dont unpause the game you can set charge to literally anything
and the game doesnt check anything
so it just displays the charge as it is stored
in this case its an XSS payload
yammering-amber•5mo ago
interesting
extended-salmon•5mo ago
interesting
Maybe it can be prevented by making the charge only display after all non-numerical chars (except decimal seperator) are removed
e.g.
h0.u78l1 becomes 0.781rare-sapphire•5mo ago
it's an easy fix
but it's not implemented
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Yeah
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
is that prop tool thing resistant to unpausing, removing the element and pressing the reset button
yammering-amber•5mo ago
is the prop tool on the canvas and made of pixels?
oh u mean that
it can be made to remove all of those buttons
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
if you fill the whole screen and make it so it removes those buttons and freezes your cursor, yeah
you could make it remove all of your saves and mods and add a backdoor mod that's gonna keep doing it
then you have to use the console to get rid of that
metropolitan-bronze•5mo ago
weren't mods out of the picture
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
I'm talking about the exploit now
since you asked about technical details about it
not about the bracket
extended-salmon•5mo ago
Because of the exploit, prop tool wins
yammering-amber•5mo ago
even without exploit, prop can make the cursor so bored that it just leaves and forfeits
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
i think that'd be a draw
yammering-amber•5mo ago
i gues
without exploits they cant really do anything to eachother, only the canvas
rare-sapphire•5mo ago
exactly
there is literally nothing the cursor can do to prop tool and there was nothing prop tool could do either
that's why it's so weird cursor won with the overwhelming majority
there isn't anything that makes it better
extended-salmon•5mo ago
I guess because it looks like it's talking about the physical cursor that exists outside of sandboxels and is definitely more powerful