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Sandboxels Player or Prop Tool
optimistic-gold•6mo ago
let's go
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
yeah the player controls prop tool
optimistic-gold•6mo ago
you can't change the player with prop tool
the prop tool is controlled by the player
dependent-tan•6mo ago
no
what if
prop tool was uh
better
and cooler
what if it got updated to be better and cooler
manual-pink•6mo ago
technically it can crash the game
and it was at one point way more powerful than cursor
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
prop tool was able to prevent the cursor from doing anything at one point in time
the cursor still cant do anything against a rogue prop tool
assuming the prop tool is controlling itself like we have been for all the other polls
yes it is controlling itself
manual-pink•6mo ago
if it's controlling itself the cursor can literally do nothing about it
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
But can't the cursor just close the browser?
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
i assume the cursor is limited to sandboxels actions
instead of overall browser actions
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Ok
foreign-sapphire•6mo ago
we voted ourselves
cool
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
optimistic-gold•6mo ago
isn't that a mod
rah
manual-pink•6mo ago
mods don't count
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
the cursor can enable it
so normally no
manual-pink•6mo ago
mods are not a part of the bracket tho unless stated otherwise
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
the cursor can reload the page
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
or close the window
or terminate the task
or reinstall windows for some reason
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
wouldn't relaoding/closing browser be forfeiting the battle
manual-pink•6mo ago
sandboxels cursor is not a mouse cursor
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
But it is directly linked to it
So it's arguably able to do stuff outside sandboxels
manual-pink•6mo ago
how
prop tool is controlled by the mouse too, doesn't mean it can do stuff outside of sandboxels
and it used to have way more power arguably as it was able to execute any javascript code without doing anything that could be considered cheating
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Well, the cursor in sandboxels can install mods
And one of them (nousersthings.js, i think) has runsomecode, which can do arbitrary stuff
manual-pink•6mo ago
mods, unless stated in the bracket, shouldnt count
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Also, the prop tool can't attack the cursor, but the cursor can just not click the prop tool
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
are you assuming the cursor has to select the prop tool for it to do anything
this isnt a "stop hitting yourself" situation, its a "you can't do anything in this realm because the prop tool controls it"
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
can ryan just clarify stuff
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
well, the poll has ended
But the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor, but the cursor can erase the pixel for which the property was changed
Or it's a draw, if the cursor isn't allowed to erase (the cursor can't damage the prop tool, and the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor)
manual-pink•6mo ago
cursor can only delete pixels, but cant do anything to prop tool itself
so its probably a draw
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Yeah
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
the prop tool prevents the cursor from every playing sandboxels again
not like changing the property of a pixel can get rid of the cursor (any more, at least)
cursor gets bored of not being able to do anything and forfeits
manual-pink•6mo ago
it still can
i just found a new xss exploit
its even easier than the first one but it requires pausing the game
manual-pink•6mo ago
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
oh neat how
manual-pink•6mo ago
charge
as long as you dont unpause the game you can set charge to literally anything
and the game doesnt check anything
so it just displays the charge as it is stored
in this case its an XSS payload
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
interesting
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
interesting
Maybe it can be prevented by making the charge only display after all non-numerical chars (except decimal seperator) are removed
e.g.
h0.u78l1 becomes 0.781manual-pink•6mo ago
it's an easy fix
but it's not implemented
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Yeah
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
is that prop tool thing resistant to unpausing, removing the element and pressing the reset button
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
is the prop tool on the canvas and made of pixels?
oh u mean that
it can be made to remove all of those buttons
manual-pink•6mo ago
if you fill the whole screen and make it so it removes those buttons and freezes your cursor, yeah
you could make it remove all of your saves and mods and add a backdoor mod that's gonna keep doing it
then you have to use the console to get rid of that
continuing-cyan•6mo ago
weren't mods out of the picture
manual-pink•6mo ago
I'm talking about the exploit now
since you asked about technical details about it
not about the bracket
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
Because of the exploit, prop tool wins
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
even without exploit, prop can make the cursor so bored that it just leaves and forfeits
manual-pink•6mo ago
i think that'd be a draw
exotic-emerald•6mo ago
i gues
without exploits they cant really do anything to eachother, only the canvas
manual-pink•6mo ago
exactly
there is literally nothing the cursor can do to prop tool and there was nothing prop tool could do either
that's why it's so weird cursor won with the overwhelming majority
there isn't anything that makes it better
ambitious-aqua•6mo ago
I guess because it looks like it's talking about the physical cursor that exists outside of sandboxels and is definitely more powerful