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Sandboxels Player or Prop Tool
correct-apricot•4mo ago
let's go
stormy-gold•4mo ago
yeah the player controls prop tool
correct-apricot•4mo ago
you can't change the player with prop tool
the prop tool is controlled by the player
absent-sapphire•4mo ago
no
what if
prop tool was uh
better
and cooler
what if it got updated to be better and cooler
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
technically it can crash the game
and it was at one point way more powerful than cursor
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
prop tool was able to prevent the cursor from doing anything at one point in time
the cursor still cant do anything against a rogue prop tool
assuming the prop tool is controlling itself like we have been for all the other polls
yes it is controlling itself
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
if it's controlling itself the cursor can literally do nothing about it
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
But can't the cursor just close the browser?
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
i assume the cursor is limited to sandboxels actions
instead of overall browser actions
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Ok
equal-jade•4mo ago
we voted ourselves
cool
stormy-gold•4mo ago
correct-apricot•4mo ago
isn't that a mod
rah
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
mods don't count
stormy-gold•4mo ago
the cursor can enable it
so normally no
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
mods are not a part of the bracket tho unless stated otherwise
stormy-gold•4mo ago
the cursor can reload the page
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
or close the window
or terminate the task
or reinstall windows for some reason
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
wouldn't relaoding/closing browser be forfeiting the battle
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
sandboxels cursor is not a mouse cursor
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
But it is directly linked to it
So it's arguably able to do stuff outside sandboxels
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
how
prop tool is controlled by the mouse too, doesn't mean it can do stuff outside of sandboxels
and it used to have way more power arguably as it was able to execute any javascript code without doing anything that could be considered cheating
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Well, the cursor in sandboxels can install mods
And one of them (nousersthings.js, i think) has runsomecode, which can do arbitrary stuff
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
mods, unless stated in the bracket, shouldnt count
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Also, the prop tool can't attack the cursor, but the cursor can just not click the prop tool
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
are you assuming the cursor has to select the prop tool for it to do anything
this isnt a "stop hitting yourself" situation, its a "you can't do anything in this realm because the prop tool controls it"
stormy-gold•4mo ago
can ryan just clarify stuff
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
well, the poll has ended
But the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor, but the cursor can erase the pixel for which the property was changed
Or it's a draw, if the cursor isn't allowed to erase (the cursor can't damage the prop tool, and the prop tool can't do anything to the cursor)
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
cursor can only delete pixels, but cant do anything to prop tool itself
so its probably a draw
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Yeah
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
the prop tool prevents the cursor from every playing sandboxels again
not like changing the property of a pixel can get rid of the cursor (any more, at least)
cursor gets bored of not being able to do anything and forfeits
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
it still can
i just found a new xss exploit
its even easier than the first one but it requires pausing the game
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
oh neat how
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
charge
as long as you dont unpause the game you can set charge to literally anything
and the game doesnt check anything
so it just displays the charge as it is stored
in this case its an XSS payload
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
interesting
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
interesting
Maybe it can be prevented by making the charge only display after all non-numerical chars (except decimal seperator) are removed
e.g.
h0.u78l1 becomes 0.781unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
it's an easy fix
but it's not implemented
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Yeah
stormy-gold•4mo ago
is that prop tool thing resistant to unpausing, removing the element and pressing the reset button
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
is the prop tool on the canvas and made of pixels?
oh u mean that
it can be made to remove all of those buttons
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
if you fill the whole screen and make it so it removes those buttons and freezes your cursor, yeah
you could make it remove all of your saves and mods and add a backdoor mod that's gonna keep doing it
then you have to use the console to get rid of that
stormy-gold•4mo ago
weren't mods out of the picture
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
I'm talking about the exploit now
since you asked about technical details about it
not about the bracket
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
Because of the exploit, prop tool wins
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
even without exploit, prop can make the cursor so bored that it just leaves and forfeits
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
i think that'd be a draw
grumpy-cyan•4mo ago
i gues
without exploits they cant really do anything to eachother, only the canvas
unwilling-turquoise•4mo ago
exactly
there is literally nothing the cursor can do to prop tool and there was nothing prop tool could do either
that's why it's so weird cursor won with the overwhelming majority
there isn't anything that makes it better
harsh-harlequin•4mo ago
I guess because it looks like it's talking about the physical cursor that exists outside of sandboxels and is definitely more powerful