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Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
doubt kya hai
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
The question itself , how do I do it?
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
Block B ka contact loose krwana hai mtlb normal zero krna hai Jab A wla mass niche aayega to spring me kuch extension aayegi jisse block B par kuch upward force lgega or ek aisa x aayega kisi moment pr jisse Block B ka sara mass Spring force balance out kr dega or Block B just contact loose krni ki condition mai aajega Further Block A ke niche jaane se Spring me jo extension ara hai usse spring potential energy store ho rhi hai 2 eqn banegi in dono cheeze se solve krke aajega minimum mass
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
let mass of B be M Mg=kx so we have to find at what x this is true if a moves down by y metres mgy=1/2ka^2 where a is extension in spring how do we connect these two independent facts we cant say agar ball falls a metres then spring should be elongated by a metres as well cuz spring is stiff , right ?
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
These are directly connected If ball A moves by x the spring will extend by x , look at the figure once there is nothing in between A and spring
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
huh? but the spring doesnt work like string springs are stiff right. how is it possible that if ball moves x the spring will be elongated by x on second thoughts , it may be possible my bad
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
Look at the point of contact na at the end point of spring it is connected to string
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
warna toh ball wouldnt have moved in the first place
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
It is constrained to move the same distance as string
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
hm got your point
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
Or you can look at this in terms of energy Jitna ball a apna potential energy loose krega utna energy hi to spring store krega right?
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
Mg=kx mgx=1/2kx^2 mg=1/2kx M=2m?
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
Yeah
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
book says M=m/2
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
m should be greater than or equal to M/2
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
oh i got it the other way
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
you hve written the same lol 👍
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
thanx man
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
Wlc
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
can u pls look at wpe2 @Real potato
Real potato
Real potato6mo ago
can u tag me there
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
done +solved @Real potato
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