✅ Infinite Bandwidth Work-around?
I'm trying to make Dropbox work for infinite bandwidth, which I'm not sure how…
My appt is like TikTok, but every video has been stored in Dropbox, the problem is the bandwidth. There must be a way to make this work and use your pc's bandwidth or another software or something else to avoid using 2TB of Dropbox's bandwidth in 1 day.
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You do know that if your files are stored on the server they get pulled from said server right?
yes, there must be a work around
Yes the workaround is not using Dropbox
Every other way would break their TOS
what dio you recommend me?
Custom CDN
Or an actual CDN provider
cloudflare has a CDN but no storage tier I thinbk
Dropbox is not meant to be a storage used by a video hosting service
Storing and streaming video is expensive
There is no workaround
there must be 1
There isn't
It's like saying there must be a way to immortality
There simply isn't
Why would there be?
Must*
so I can host videos, I can pay, I need infinite bandwidth options
CDN: :kadse:
They don’t have to have a workaround!?
Storage servers: :kadse:
Dude, Dropbox is not a CDN
CDN is to save bandwidht, right?
If you can pay and want to have something that works for video streaming, use a cdn
CDN is to deliver your content
cdn are hard to setup for noobs tho
If you don't compress that's on you
If you're a noob, sorry
where is the content tho
On the CDN
Building a service like Tiktok that is supposed to serve at least 2TB of data daily is impossible for you
In the cdn???
:stare:
LOL STOP
Why would you even do that?
:ConfusedAnime: ?
I mean why isn't the question it would be a great learning experience
what CDN are good?
Makes sense
You would be better looking it up
AWS is a thing
Maybe it
Just keep in mind AWS pricing even if you can pay you can also go bankrupt :stare:
Please just build the application and then worry about the other stuff later, build it to learn, not to sell a Tiktok clone
this will just make me go bankrupt, I need a free server storage
Nope, won’t work
Why not start with a forum? :lurk:
clients should be the one paying for storage...
This instead
…
Imagine paying for using Tiktok
so I manage the apis endpoints and the code and make it simple but the clients pay for storage and upload stuff
You are making a TikTok clone but paid???
Whereas TikTok is free and already has a ton (or more) content?????
Dude
I need a software like dropbox that enables me to store video and enables streaming with infinite bandwidth
Cdn: :kadse:
Is this an XY problem?
I don't think you're honestly listening to anyone here
We gave you answers
Free doesnt exist
Specially not for storage
Storage is "cheap"
The problem is streaming
cdn like AWS is not the answer for me, since I do not have a credit card AND if there's too many videos, I'll go bankrupt
Or ram
Fact: you cant do this without millions of dollars, there is no work around
Then don’t do it
Do to learn first
Then buy a bunch of storage servers, write a backend that can scale and you're good for a while
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There is no special way to avoid it, this js a hardware limitation you cant get around without money
Dropbox doesn’t have to favor you
So unless you have money for servers, you cant do this
Don’t ignore this
basically, I was looking for an app like vimeo, right?
Also, without millions of dollars in marketing you can't launch a new social media network in 2024
??
but with scalable bandwidth (50TB+)
Do you have the money to buy it?
nothing else
to buy what
The service
This isnt free
You have to pay for shit
Technically it's possible without the millions but that still needs a shit ton of advertisement and the yield would be small
vimeo tier, yes
So then why dont you use vimeo
Techinically yes, but let's be real
It's impossible
To stay up after that yield it definitely is
because even the best tier is not really good (like 2TB of bandwidth, which is fairly equal to 100 people watching your video)
How large is that video :SCshocked:
So why dont you contact vimeo and ask for a business deal?
each video these days are like 500MB?
"Hey ive got some money and I want more bandwidth so pls"
because each of my clients will have to
If I open tiktok and the videos I watch are 500mb im closing
The average video on Tiktok is way smaller than 500mb
around how much are they?
Sp heres what you do: you buy servers, go to a datacenter and then host your service from there
Pay extra for more bandwidth
What you upload on TikTok can be 2gb
If you watch a video shortly after upload you will see it lags like shit because it's uncompressed, after a while you can actually watch it because it got compressed
is a video around 100MB? a video of 1 minute of tiktok?
Hard to tell
It's less
Way less
Otherwise I could only watch like 40 videos before my mobile data goes out
do they handle compression by themselves?
yes
Probably
why do you want to make a tiktok clone
that is a good point
it's not a clone, just something I cant explain
@ACat
This is basically the best thing you can do
Most cost cost effective in the long term
aws isn't the only thing
you did like 0 research
why did you assume that a tiktok video is 500mb
So some videos I have downloaded from tiktok (either via third party or tiktok directly) range between 1-3mb each
with what software?
LOOOK IT UP
IIRC Tiktok's bitrate is like 1-2mbps
holy shit
Their own custom software most likely
Its crazy how they compress it that much
While it not looking like garbage
The wonders of good encoding 😅
so how many videos of tiktok would it take for 2TB of bandwidth?
Also probably some preloading magic
try calculating
Programming fascinates me 🗣️
different videos have different sizes
it would be around 1k videos, which is not that much at the end of the day
Thats a lot of videos
Bro is doomscrolling
not if 10k users scroll through them?
Why not start with a forum :SCgetoutofmyhead:
You're trying to solve enterprise problems without having them
It wont matter once you get your own custom servers
what are you even trying to do
like patreon
so paid?
Get. Your. Own. Custom. Servers.
then worry less???
where you can buy/pay for videos and content
how is your platform going ot be better?
so onlyfans
:trollskull:
Holy shit youre right dude
That sounds like onlyfans
:stare:
it's not
technincally it is
maybe without the women?
ye
LMAO
Only fans actually isnt even really about that
They even tried removing errotic content
Didnt that create huge drama
Yes
So they re enabled it
They almost died
:SCgetoutofmyhead:
LMAO WHY
AHAHAHHAHA
Well because the creators didnt want OF to be seen a as a p platform
@ACat are you still trying to figure out a way to cheat the system?
He never will
yea
I mean that reputation is long gone I don't think it will ever be seen as a non-p-platform
Dude its like talking to a brick wall
where do i sign up for the "laugh at acat when they kick him off" newsletter?
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Add
?bandwidth=
Followed by your needed bandwidth on the Dropbox api call URL.
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no sir, my goal was to find a prebuilt software to handle content... not making my own with aws or a custom CDN
Yeah youre not gonna be able tod o that
Its expensive software
Companies dont just usually sell trade secrets like that
I'm wonderying why bandwidth cost money, since it's litereally just electricity
honestly writing the backend for this might be the most fun part abt the project why skip it :SCgetoutofmyhead:
Why? It doesnt matter, it costs money and thats it
Its because people have to work hard to make it and theyre not going to give it away
well you have to pay for electricity aswell
is there something else than that? since it's seems expensive for no reason
Waiter waiter more bandwidth please.
No no other reason
Thats it
Theres no use wondering about it
there is only a finite amount of cables going to the datacenter.. so the client have to pay who is allowed to send signals over that wire
Thats how it is and how it will be for a while
You still have to pay your tab :Kek:
building new cables is expensive
electricity is like 50$ per year, nothing massive
Thats for one house
Me when the bill arrives
you dont build them, you buy them
Now imagine cables going through 10k houses
That $50 turns into $500k
yes and then you have to put them into the ground then into the datacenter etc
there is ton of work associated with it
Just assume you're gonna be on a huge loss on launch
i pay the bills, not the cables
The cables ARE the bill
someone did pay them at somepoint
Dude I still dont know why youre fighting this
It really is like talking to a brick wall
Build a forum.
:SCgetoutofmyhead:
No offense but youre like a kid wondering why everything isnt free
Someone paid for them at one point in time. And they didnt invest that money for free, they want it back and then some
Could I know why? also, what would there be in it?
Because it will teach you what backend is like
Like properly
Thats how capitalism works
And you already handle media
There's more to a service than streaming videos
Which is what weve decided we want our society to be like
tbh find a good business strategy or product first which you can reach more than 5 people with
then you can talk about investing in it
you are an investor?
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LMAO
storing messages, post, user data..
Exactly
*facepalm* yea i work for black rock
Profile icons, attached media
companies have to pay for those cables
talking to you is like torture man ngl
???
Invest in my idea I'd run a monopoly on the branch if I succeed 🗣️
and the interenet as well
i want to see a 100 page document first about how inclusive you are
Its like you just dont want to accept that this in no way will work eithout shelling out cash
:SCgetoutofmyhead:
wtf and why tf are you even trying to do that
stop
I should probably actually do this along with writing a better documentation for it before I end up scope creeping the shit out of it
:SCshocked:
Counter offer: you send me your bank account and i do what I want with it
xDDD
it's fine, as Zuck said, your ideas will always look bad at first, look good when you are successful
It is an investment after all
Lol dude youll never be zuck
understood lol.
How do ppl here get those regular roles I heard it's with levels or smth but I already send tons of messages here unless they took out the help forum of the rating :SCgetoutofmyhead:
It's not based on your total messages, but on how active you're on monthly/weekly basis
???
how does that make sense
Ah
Now it makes sense :SCgetoutofmyhead:
there is no logic to your idea or how you are trying to execute it
this is idiocy
???
Please let's remain civil and don't antagonize them
I cant fully explain my idea, otherwise you would steal it
Zuckerberg was a genius that put kots of resesrch and effort into what he did
LMAO
:trollskull:
Youre right, its just so hard
It's what it's 😅
:SCgetoutofmyhead:
so you can't tell your idea because you are afraid that somebody can make your idea better?
why even make it in the first place?
somebody can see the final product you intend to put up now
and "steal" the idea of it?
Isn't your idea literally paid tiktok
How would we help you if we dont know your idea though
"Hey I need help with x"
"Whats x?"
"I cant tell you"
Afaik ppl here usually don't help with ideas at all they help with problems
yeah okay so no response to that
Well usually yes but this problem involves the idea directly
tbh in a small scale that should be managable but the problem is that you want to leech and want to have the whole cake for free, thats not how the world works
this
^
I have my fair share of asking for concepts of CDNs and server structure here but I always provide the required info :SCgetoutofmyhead:
For some reason, you actually have to give something to get something!
and this person is most likely not going to take this feedback lol
I think I just need some money before starting storing data of thise size
Yesp
Rhats exactly what you need
Money
You need a service before worrying about that
I think I was right about that
Money first
well do you even have an estimate how much data you want to store and how much bandwidth you actually need?
Couple grand should get you started
unlimited is just a dumb answer
they kinda do and kinda don't lol
they did around 0 research
like around 10TB at the start
xDDDDD
oh... my... god
holy shit
they are a brick wall
10tb storage or traffic?
daily? monthly? yearly?
10tb of storage at the beginning
how many users do you think will you have?
few thousands?
why?
where did you take that?
that is just a guess
why do you think so?
...
wiuthg 10tb storage you will just have storage. now how much bandwidth?
few thousand users..
are they acttive daily? concurrently?
10000 people * 2 (video) * 50MB (size of a video without compression) = 10TB
WHERE DID YOU TAKE THESE NUMBERS!?
from what I'M expecting
why just 2 videos?
ever seen someone on tiktok that just watches two videos?
and WHY are you expecting 10000 people on a service, the idea of which you are too scared to share, because you are afraid that somebody will make it better????
usually people do research about this :SCgetoutofmyhead:
i know a few hundred are interested in my project because they told me
no, 1000 people can upload 2 videos
you are not questioning a single thing, you are basing your idea on no reasearch and instead, "guesses"
this
what's your project
that was a question,
:stare:
no response
because people should be interested by my project so im expecting around 1k people within a month
should be != is
you need to do research
lets say you have your 10000 user that uploaded content to your service..
how many will view the videos at the same time?
im trying to go somewhere with this...
10 times more
apxroximalty, like tiktok where there's many more viewers than publicator
no, they shouldn't
can you think for a bit?
they have titkok
patreon
onlyfans
danationalert
wherever dankpods is streaming now
and m uch more
they do not have to be interested or even care about your service
and the way you said that makes yousound entitled af
I meant 1k max, not that many
the thing is that I got my few hundred users by doing research and the amazing people that have helped me spread my surveys and pitches so people could tell me their ideas and what theyd like to see
if you have no such thing you will need to run surveys and all that stuff to get actual numbers you need real data not estimates
:stare:
send me your project
no!!!
this isnt abt my project its abt how you approach a problem
WHY NOT, I want to learn froem the best
then youre looking at the wrong address
:stare:
this person is avoiding doing what was told
or at least try
what was told
try reading
yea, thx for the help
I'm going to make a vimeo app I think
good luck
they will probably need it
with their stone wall self (??)
I dont know, every cool app is not possible
what do you mean?
what?
like cool idea that I think of can't be done
??????
everything can be done.. you just have to understand what you need for it
and instead of copying others why not think of something original?
you wont get far by competing with billion dollar companies,
find a markethole and fill it
if you are the first to create something the population is craving for the project will grow by itself
you are never the first, everthing exists
if that would be the case the human civilization wouldnt grow anymore
Lies lies falsehoods!!!
369 messages of trying to talk to a brick wall
now 371
wdym a brick wall
holy shit
lol
I understood, I need to use AWS or use my own servers, which wont happen soon
i hope you're trolling, because this is quite funny
~~369 messages
holy cow
lol
what's funny?
more like sad
:kekw:
like
bandwidth has to be paid for because it's a finite resource
there's only so much data a given cable can carry, and only so many cables to carry that data
and also companies have to pay the bills for them
and maintenance
and taxes
etc
same thing for data storage, it's also a finite resource
lol that's my brother
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I dont have a Dropbox acc, my goal was for people to use Dropbox on their own to store their content and then in my app, i use the authentification to dropbox so you can publish your videos on my app for everyone to see and make people pay for the content.
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Wsp