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hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Question 1
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Where is back bonding que?
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
X-y , xeof4 wala question
Makhana
Makhana7mo ago
Is the answer 10?
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
14 I got 15 lone pairs , but dk how many p pi d pi bonds
Makhana
Makhana7mo ago
15 lp and one pπdπ bond
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
How come there's only one
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Only oxygen bond is p pi di pi
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
There are vacant d orbitals in xe , and enough lone pairs to give
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
F second period element h d orbital hota hi nhi
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Why not the back bond between f and xe P toh hai par
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
F ke pas already sufficient electrons h that is 8
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Yeah and xe has vacant d orbitals So it can share
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
It wont
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
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hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
This is my understanding of back bonding , lone pairs go from full filled to vacant orbitals
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Back bonding to tb krege na jab electron ki kami ho Like in BF3 isme Boron pr e kam hai islie krta h Ha to kahi bhi back bonding thodi krwa denge There are certain cases
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Boron has vacant p orbital and f has filled p so lone pairs can go forming 3 p pi p pi bonds right ?
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
yeah
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Or only one
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
P to P bhi kr skta h p to d bhi kr skta h
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
1 or 3 ? Boron doesn't have d
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
General case bol ra hu boron ki baat nhi kr rha hu
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
pH If bf3 has 3 p pi p pi bonds why can xeof4 not have 5 p pi d pi bonds
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
I didn’t get ur point
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Here u agreed 3 back bonds in bf3 So how can we calc no of back bonds in xeof4
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
its not 3 back bond 😭💀 Har F bari bari deta hai
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Why u said "yeah" 😭
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
I thought your 3 means 3rd p orbital
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Matlab it keeps on changing but the total number of p pi p pi bonds is 1 only Woh toh bf3 mein kahin nahi hai
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Yup this is correct
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Same goes for xeof4? 1 oxygen and 4 f , all 5 can give and keep on changing Aise toh there can never be more than 1 back bond
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
but back bonding krege kyu Think of a reason first
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
In xeof4 ?? 5d orbital is empty , fluorine and oxygen have lone pairs so they will
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
kya Xe ke pass e ki kami hai? It is hypervalent dude it has more than 8 e Back bonding is a special case jo compound show krte hai in raree cases if CA hve deficiency of e
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
So means zero back bonds in xeof4? Answer says otherwise
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Yeah
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Answer says there's 1 back bond
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
14 h ans? 15 lone pair or ek p pi dp bond dusre comp ka
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Yep
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
So yeah its correct na 15-1 =14
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
...
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
I dont think there’s any bb 1 p pi d pi is the double bond Also back bonding is also a pi bond so shyd aise explain kia ho ans me inhone If u hve explanation to answer do show it
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Nah no explanation
Real potato
Real potato7mo ago
Then yeah there is no bb the one p pi di pi the the double bond between Xe and O chlo if abhi bhi clear ni hua ill try to answer tomorrow. I gtg to sleep i hve classes in mrng
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Can u answer the other one Super quick Okk , cya
iTeachChem
iTeachChem7mo ago
bhai solved mark kar diya kar xD @hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
nah i intentionally left it open in hopes of some better opinions on this
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
+solved @Real potato
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