straight lines

How can like 2x+y=a make an isosceles right angled triangle with coordinate axes
No description
104 Replies
iTeachChem Helper
@Apu
iTeachChem Helper
Note for OP
+solved @user1 @user2... to close the thread when your doubt is solved. Mention the users who helped you solve the doubt. This will be added to their stats.
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
Dividing the equation by a on both sides we can get x/(a/2)+y/a =1 This indicating the line in intercept form , and such line can never form an isosceles triangle Acc to me answer should be asq/4 Area of triangle oab = asq/4 Area of triangle oma = asq/20 @¹¹⁷sos sorry for the ping but am i tripping
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Ek sec Pura padhne de It's not talking about that triangle Okay so we have our first triangle which is made by that line, furthermore now we have another line which is perpendicular to the given like It intersects our original line in such a way that it will make an isosceles triangle with OM and BM Or AM OM nikal jayega using the distance of like from origin Ab now we know that it's an isosceles right angled triangle and we already know then distance of one side so 1/2side² Uske baad you can use congruency to prove both are isosceles
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
ok so the solution says triangle oab is isosceles but how can it be isosceles u mean om=bm=am ??
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I mean it's given in question toh aasani se lekar chalne me koi dikkat nhi hai
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
but its not possible to be iscoscles na
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yes can be proved with congruency later down the line
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeah exactly
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
how's there a problem with it making a right angled triangle with the coordinate axes?
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Why so
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
substituting 0 for x and y u get oordinate and absicca as a/2 and a
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
No description
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
precisely
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
nvm i have done this question. assuming coord axes is wrong but the question can still be solved
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Guys I believe there will be a certain value of 'a' for which it will be isosceles
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
look at two examples i also pointed out in my explanation that when the lines converted to intercept form we clearly see intercepts aint equal
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
One sec lemme draw
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
i thought so too, but i dont thing it works like that man
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeah exactly
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yeah you are right
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
perpendicular is from origin so theres no real option to consider anythig else
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Can't be isosceles
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yep , ill still confirm the question once with my teacher
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
2x+y=a Xc = a/2 Yc=a a=a/2 when a=0 but then such a situation no more exists
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
also , needed a bit of advice from u guys
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
there is still an option
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I get it
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
when doing coord geo i always miss out on cases
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
How so
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
how to prevent that the other day i was doing circles and left out 3 cases in a question
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
No description
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
solve while considering the yellow lines
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
What cases are you talking about like
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
my diagram is kinda wrong but you get it ig
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I need to wrap my head around this
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
ill give u an example from straight lines find the equation of straight line upon which the length of perp from origin is 2 and slope of this perpendicular is 5/12. pretty standard and easy question but there were two possible answer
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
just have some check marks in your mind and keep checking your method and try to see what you are doing after every step
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeah same
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yeah I mean listen it will take a bit of practice but this isn't something you can't do, draw everything rather than just being technical and formulaic, cordinate geometry me itni case ki dikkat nhi aati it will become way better as you practice don't worry
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeah i do draw figure but i still miss out. ig its just a practice issue so need not worry in early stages
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yess and you will develop those check marks by practicing drawing and reading examples C'mon 11th me ye dikkat hoti hai now you will always think ki ek point se 2 distance ho sakte hai for the same slope so yeah
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
huh?
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I mean you won't the same mistake twice right
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
dist toh ek hi hoga na
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
also agar tu baar baar cheeze miss karha hai toh you might know what u keep forgetting. Make sure you don't forget that thing or mess it up
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
aight everyone thanx a lot not closing the thread for now . will update tomorrow
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Kkk
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
i also have some problem with the concept of family of lines and line pairs am just not able to wrap my mind around their concept , especially the latter
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I really hated that concept too, I would recommend looking at some examples from arihant or cengage periodically
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
ohh ok do u think giving trigo a rest for now is fine
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
i have been doing that bro, its the sanest move trust
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
i have like 20 doubts in my module rn and if i get stuck with that ill mess up circles too
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yeah I think so, abhi 12th me bhi bahut mix hogi
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
trying to do em simultaneously will kill us 💀
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
already having straight lines in backlog
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Bhejte rhehna
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
added to that is chemical bonding nlm and wpe
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
how tf u in wpe man
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
i have uploaded quite a few in the server
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Doubts, maths is like the only thing I remember 😭
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
dont ask
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
even maths ur wayy ahead, like pair of lines
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
dude circles chal rha hai hamara
@Ameya²
@Ameya²6mo ago
lmao atleast mechanics ruin mat hone dena
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
I will look at em all
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
my self study schedule is fucked i see
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
13 , 14, wagera the na
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
we spent like 2 months on basic maths in maths which included a good chunk of calculus and inequaltities
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Abhi try karta hu
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
then speedrun hi chal rha yepp , really good questions +1
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Well imma give em a try now Koi aur doubt ho toh puch lena, and yeah syllabus ki dikkate aati hai keep going
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
okk, thanxx. iit mandi toh sundar jagah mei hai . ull have a blast thats the only motto. dont stop
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
agreed (i lost all my self confidence trying them)
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Listen please ye sunke jaaana
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeah sure
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
btw @hardcoreisdead where did u get those trigono qs?
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
coaching module 💀
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
fked up i tell u
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
11th and even in 12th kabhi kabhi we struggle a lot with questions but the thing is you should be more focused on learning rather then solving, even if you see the solution it's fine , be more focused on learning I am still learning now and I have given a lot of time to maths
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
just imagine the level of archive and gmp theyll give us (fiitjee) maths do be like that, literally eats away the time
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Fiitjee wale kaafi jyada hi hard rakhte hai, mujhe toh ab lag raha hai aakash hi behtar tha
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
u from fiitjee too?
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Aaaaakaaaaash
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
ohh its good and bad both , so i dont really complain
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yeah but don't get demotivated even if you can't solve 5 in a row Easy to say hard to do, but bahut ups downs aati hai
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
did this with nlm. i legit rage quit and went to sleep
lmaodedXD
lmaodedXD6mo ago
fiitjee ki maths modules ne jo self confidence giraya hai na
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
That's not the right mentality, us point pe easy subject pe aajao
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
it was quite late so i did the next 5 6 questions so i just speedsolved them and went to sleep
lmaodedXD
lmaodedXD6mo ago
nah physics was never the problem with me shit like trigo made me cry
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Maths Aisa jaroor karti hai but like in aakash bahut acche level ke questions late aate the shuru shuru me baccho ko nhi dete
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
not gonna end the day with ragequitting
lmaodedXD
lmaodedXD6mo ago
i see
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Yess ab padho
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
yeahh bohot time ho gya cya . will update tomorrow
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Kkk
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
The figure is misleading asf I hope this figure alone solves the problem Image incoming
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
No description
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
L1 and l2 are the lines dropped on 2x+y=a and L1 and l2 and mutually perp
¹¹⁷sos
¹¹⁷sos6mo ago
Abey I really misinterpret the question and the diagram doesn't help either
g-sus
g-sus6mo ago
bro wtf is that image they gave 😭
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP6mo ago
Ikrr Aight marking it solved +solved @¹¹⁷sos
iTeachChem Helper
Post locked and archived successfully!
Archived by
<@741159941934415883> (741159941934415883)
Time
<t:1722177910:R>
Solved by
<@673830312555446272> (673830312555446272)

Did you find this page helpful?