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RunPod4mo ago
shockz

Does /runsync have a timeout?

Hello there. I'm trying to figure out if the syncronous endpoints do have a default timeout. The doc states that they're "ideal for short-lived tasks", but it only talks about recommendation rather than actual requirements. Thanks!
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nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Not really, you define it on the edit endpoint or per request for timeouts Runsync job expires faster after it's return Compared to run And the payload has higher limits for runsync
shockz
shockz4mo ago
So i could even have an endpoint with /runsync running for 1-3minutes, as long as my specified timeout is longer than that?
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Yess Keep in mind your request still going to return your request ID after a minute if it's not returned
shockz
shockz4mo ago
so its going to switch into what /run would be doing?
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
@nerdylive sorry is there a reference to this in the documentation? I cannot find this anywhere I find it very difficult to believe that Runpod is doing something like this, is super antipattern If I call a sync API I should get an error OR a sync response
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Haha yes It acts like run, return the ID, but job result still times out after 30 or 60 secs after the job done So you have to either poll /status Or use web hook setting Try to search Hmm what do you mean
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
I dont find anything about this transformation of a /runsync to /run in the docs, even the AI does not find anything
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Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
Another query, I'm almost 100% sure there is no reference to this behaviour in the docs
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nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
hmm no it doesn't "transforms"
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Endpoint operations | RunPod Documentation
RunPod's Endpoints enable job submission and output retrieval, using a constructed URL starting with https://api.runpod.ai/v2/{endpoint_id}/{operation}. Operations include job submission, synchronous execution, job status checking, and more.
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Since /runsync waits for a respond, if until 60 secs it doesn't return yet ( still processing ) it will return https://docs.runpod.io/serverless/references/job-states in progress job state, with an job id
Job states | RunPod Documentation
Understand the various states of a job in RunPod's Handler Functions, including IN_QUEUE, IN_PROGRESS, COMPLETED, FAILED, CANCELLED, and TIMED_OUT, to effectively manage job flow and troubleshoot issues.
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
thats how it is
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
I'm sorry but that is not what is stated there
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
/run will give us a job ID /runsync will give us the result of the worker
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nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Yes, but try it out if you don't believe me try making a job that runs longer than 1 minute and if it hasn't returned any job result, it'll return in_progress
shockz
shockz4mo ago
i think we believe what you're saying, but the point is that we should revise the documentation because it doesn't state the same
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Okay yes
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
is not that I dont beleive you, is that we are paying for a service that is not doing what is stated in the docs can you raise this ticket to second level?
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
please write it on #🧐|feedback if you want to suggest any edit, or yeah posting it on a ticket works For contacting support staffs directly try to create a ticket from the website's contact
Domingo
Domingo4mo ago
I dont want to "suggest" I want the company to answer for a miss direction We'll try the email route then thanks
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Im sorry yeah i know runpod docs isn't that complete sure that works too your welcome!
shockz
shockz4mo ago
you've been helpful anyways to solve our doubts, at least now we know what to expect 🫠 thanks!
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
yeah your welcome too 🙂 But i'd suggest using /run if you want to use it for production, got bigger rate limits, longer time for your job results to expire -> meaning more flexibility to collect it
shockz
shockz4mo ago
We’ll surely look into using /run + webhooks as the /runsync behavior is completely unpredictable. After some tests from our end, we believe that the “behavior” switch happens upon 60s of waiting time (worker not ready, queues…) rather than execution time.
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
Ah yea 60s, from your request
shockz
shockz4mo ago
Not really, we managed to get responses after 70s as we had about 35s of waiting time and 35s of execution time. It’s definitely a bit confusing :$
nerdylive
nerdylive4mo ago
oh wow
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