dumb chem doubt

may sound dumb but i have a doubt. when we heat up a metal , say a metal pan on stove , we are essentially supplying energy to the electorns. what if the electrons get enough energy to jump out of their orbit ? where will they go? in the environment or what
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Shaurya_Agrawal1
It wouldn't be possible in case of stove, but a thing called ionization energy exists. Ionization energy is the energy required by a certain atom to remove a electron from its orbitals and make the atom a cation. You will study this topic in class 11th "Periodic Classification of elements" in detail.
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
but ionization energy is for gases only what about work function of a solid metal?? also why would it not work in case of stove
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hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
My metal is hypothetical, just imagine that is possible My question really isn't about the energy but the electron who escaped due to getting the energy To make it sound more realistic we may take a solid metal in a crucible
Max_34561
Max_345617mo ago
You do know that the electrons are pretty much instantly replaced post photoelectric effect
Shaurya_Agrawal1
right
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
But thats when they are in that tube of experiment where they are attracted by the positive plate (receiver plate?and then returns to the ejector plate leading to photocurrent
Max_34561
Max_345617mo ago
Again what makes you think that's the only way of emissions of electrons Electrons can be ejected and received in multiple ways
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Yeah that's my point , electrons only need energy, be it in any form , photon mein ya heat mein it doesn't matter What if the photoelectric effect is taking place in natural environment, like sunlight falling on an electric pole with a work function really low There's no receiver plate right
Max_34561
Max_345617mo ago
Many of the times the electron goes back to the metal And a photon is ejected right
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Howw? It gets a kinetic energy in the outwards direction how can it come back
Max_34561
Max_345617mo ago
Attraction b/w the molecule and free electron
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
ohhh, so that explains my heat doubt too ig
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!Nimay¡7mo ago
Lol also about the environment thing. Ejecting a valence electron to infinity essentially means a huge distance such that it cannot get attracted back anymore which can be 1 cm as well because that already is a huge distance for an electron so sure it won’t go to Saturn or somewhere else lmao
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
Hmm I do get it But woh 1 cm bhi bahar aake kya karega Ik I might sound dumb or smthing but it just doesn't fit
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡7mo ago
Depends on what conditions you ionize them Agar positive charged plate hai metal ke paas toh photoelectric current is made Agar vacuum hai toh electron cloud banta metal ke paas (it’s called space charge) Abb hawe mein hi kroge toh they might just fly away and get accepted by an electron deficient species in the vicinity.
hardcoreisdead
hardcoreisdeadOP7mo ago
woahhh, thats the answer i was looking for walter white moment fr +solved @!Nimay¡ @Max_34561
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