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Why is n =5 in Q 32 Shouldn't it be 3
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Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
if you see the change in elemental oxidation state of Mn throughout the reaction, on LHS it is in +7 state, and on the RHS it went to +2 state, so net change in its oxidation state is 7-2=+5 thats the net electron exchange for the reaction as well
Aman
Aman8mo ago
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Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Why can't we just subtract net charges for net e change
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
you are doing +2 - (-1)?
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
No
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
you can on half reactions but they oxn and red halves should be perfectly balanced then....
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Net charge on lhs = 2 On rhs = 5 e transfer = 3
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
bro see its a redox reaction the participating elemental metal atoms (Mn and Fe) undergo reduction and oxn respectively
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Ohhh in that case why did u chose to see Mn's oxid only
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
bro first you need to see that the eqn isnt balanced so first you need to get it into the balanced form....
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Ok
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
did you get it? has your doubt been resolved? you can see elemental oxn changes after balancing...... whats with such high count on slow mode? ☠️
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Ikr So bal eqn is 8H+ + 5Fe2+ + MnO4- = 5Fe3+ + Mn2+ + 4H2O
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
you can see yourself now whether you use Fe now or Mn 😄
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
How? I don't get it
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
you can use both now, for Fe elemental change is 15-10=5 and for mn 7-2=5
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Ohhhhhhh ok I get it
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
way to go buddy 👍 all the best 🙏
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Wait for both elemental change is 5
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
yup so your n=5
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
So net e transfer shouldn't it be 10 5 for each?
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
☠️ bro see one of them is "giving" these e- and the other is taking them....you will be counting the same thing 2 times.
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Oh mb 💀
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
you can see the criss cross method of balancing redox reactions once it will give you a nice idea bout e- transfers through oxidation state changes....
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Thx I got it now
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
also if you are doing electrochem i would suggest to have a read on the thermodynamics of cell part....i believe you would have already done it but i have seen some places its not mentioned so.....
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
What is that Like G and S in terms of Ecell?
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
and more....like the coefficient (thermal) of a cell.....
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Ye I have done that
Deleted User
Deleted User8mo ago
i think you would have done it.....already...if not you can have a read....it would be there in coaching materials in theory part i believe. ok 🙏 all the best 👍
Gamertug
GamertugOP8mo ago
Thx u very much +solved @Deleted User
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