i want to learn how to find affordable items, building my wardrobe in California

I am unemployed so i need to be just find reliable shopping avenues because most likely i have cash on hand from random gigs... i dont really have the means for online shopping. I can probably go to a mall that has a Nordstrom but i can never seem to find anything actually good there. I have like a few mens boutiques i can go to but they are super bougie and expensive. And i never end up wearing those pieces either i realize...its been an uphill battle for me. I usually wear black pants and grey shirts as my daily uniform
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.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
@jake nice pfp mate
mattw2
mattw26mo ago
eBay and second hand stores in person or online can get you nice stuff for about 10-50% of retail if you've got patience and time.
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
Do you live in an area with secondhand stores (goodwill, savers, etc.)? Plenty of people here in CA have found some incredible finds when thrifting (be it deisgner goods or else things in very good condition that were donated). In terms of how to shop second hand this post has a number of good reads about what to look for in person vs online https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1125076626665910332/1126237247650402364
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
The best thing you can do is really narrow down what you want. It sounds like you have a good start in getting inspiration; you can always check #waywt or #inspiration for other examples, and read this about some of the pitfalls in trying to find what you want. https://malefashionadvice.substack.com/p/on-the-development-of-personal-style
On the development of personal style
—finding the self through embracing self-expression and cultivating personal style—
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
ebay has been driving my patience (i tried to start a discord thread) ebay has been silently allowing my bids to go through .... but i didnt want to purchase i just wanted to haggle and see whether i can actually bid or "watch" they ended up just silently processing my orders and one time i got like 200 dollars worth of clothes shipped but i was the last person to find out yes im currently in the process of doing this.. i went to one place that was supposedly good and i didnt find a damn thing, not pants, shirt, shoe or jacket but that was a suggested store and i felt like it soured my experience of what to expect if i continue thrifiting
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
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.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
imma simple dude i just dont want to fall victim to layering alot of clothes my day to day is black running pants, grey shirt, i have 4 pairs of both pants and shirt because im simple but now i need to climb out of that box and build out my wardrobe around black track pants and grey shirts?
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
this is maybe a silly question but: why exactly is that?
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
wanted a tech job, i thought i looked the part maybe? never got that tech job, so with the dream deferred... im waking up to doing other stuff like retail or labor also its wedding season and i have only a few good pieces i like, some of which is from banana republic but i feel like thats a different convo? can i share the fit for tonight?
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
yes, but i would say the biggest thing is figuring out what exactly you want?
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
for the wardrobe or for wedding season?
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
wardrobe
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
the wardrobe.. i need to scream boyfriend material lol im getting old
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
the what to wear for a wedding would be a subset of and separate to this
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
and i dont have anyone in my life i need to have a social look, available, employed, etc i realize when im looking at pinterest the suggestions that i like are usually coming from someplace called Poshmark?
mattw2
mattw26mo ago
Can you share some images of stuff you think fits that description
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
no wait its called MR.portman i feel like those are confident looking pieces yeah for sure i can try
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
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.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
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.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
for sure i think that a denim jacket would be nice might be a nice staple for the wardrobe but since my pants are mostly or lets be honest all black track pants... i need to expand my pants to include durable chinos also this specific outfit seems to benefit from mundane looking walking shoes so i need to find cheap shoes
mattw2
mattw26mo ago
Cool, let's start with the denim jacket for simplicity sake... How much would you want to spend?
kyn
kyn6mo ago
I do not know how to say this other than that it sounds like you were bidding when you would have been better served looking for auctions with “best offer” enabled and making offers on that or just messaging sellers Either way you shouldn’t submit a bid if you aren’t willing to pay that amount of money though you can retract bids if needed
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
thats the thing though i thought i they were giving me the option to retract, as a final purchasing decision but they seemed to revoke it and i stopped trusting ebay after that i own a pair of expensive barefoot shoes now lol never worn
kyn
kyn6mo ago
I am not sure that’s accurate & I’ve been using eBay for about 15 years. When you submit a bid, you are committing to purchase the item up to that price. At the end of the auction, the highest bid is considered to have committed to purchasing the item and is charged. The only way to retract a bid is through a support workflow or to have it cancelled by the seller.
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
but i dont actually bid on stuff, in the traditional sense i usally look for the offers, that allows me to have the open conversation with sellers omg dude im sorry ideally i would like to spend 30 i went to levis store recently and i think they have it for 80 or 90?
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
To find a $30 denim jacket you will most likely need to find it secondhand In my opinion, I would not trust the quality control or longevity of any denim jacket retailing for $30
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
i totally understand this i felt like the levis store definitely has some quality items
jake
jake6mo ago
Lol thanks man
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
ive had my 4 black pants, for 4 yrs now since lockdown and it probably will last another 4 years, they retail 100 each but i got them on sale my 4 grey shirts also durable, nother 4 years
jake
jake6mo ago
Hard agree. You can find Levi's jackets real cheap on eBay
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
i think i need to find a way to incorporate my black pants maybe i need dark items to add to my wardrobe? like less contrasting pieces 🤔
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
i would stay on the train of 'i think a denim jacket would be nice'
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
right on
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
cohesion is important and being able to use your existing clothes is always beneficial, especially when funemployed BUT if you actively like something you're going to be more inclined to wear it repeatedly funny coincidence today's topic of the day is about denim jacket brands https://discord.com/channels/1116793467654381685/1249030179289043045
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
hold on brb guys, im gonna be on the phone and walk this dog ... i got a dogsitting gig today
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
all you need to do is filter the size and price that you want to spend, then save the search (turn off the emails otherwise your inbox will get flooded).
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
Well the pants are kind of shiny and deep black but functionally brilliant and slimming? What I hate about jeans is how boxy or fat I feel
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
My mom's an asshole she tells me I'm fat But I'm not even I'm like chubby for real
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
gonna stop you right there champ there are plenty of people of varying shapes and sizes that are wearing jeans (check #waywt and #waywt-highlights); if the fit is the problem then it's the jeans' fault, which can be remedied by finding a different pair of jeans (if you dislike jeans for other reasons, that's fair, but this train of thinking can be self-limiting)
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
No I think it's just long time since I wear jeans and also I'm not someone to wear proper fitting clothes That's why my track pants are my favorite
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
that is fair
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
Just all the room and comfort I feel alien with jeans on
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
as someone who at one point was hovering around 250 at the start of covid a lot of this tracks with my own personal experience
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
And then of course they feel limiting in so many respects
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
best thing you can do is try stuff on. go to a macys or nordstrom, find some levis, and try stuff on
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
I tried on 5 different jeans at levis All the numbers And I'm 36 width because there is no 35 But they all look and feel weird Like I'm a Roblox character Yep
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
there's a period of breaking in with any new jeans the benefit of going secondhand is that someone already did that for you
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
I would like you to go back and see what there xx chinos are like
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
aside from feel, was there anything that fit well in your opinion not too long, not tight
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
But they don't look as durable as their commuter pants they used to sell Yeah I might have to try them on again for the feel.... Specifically I went to see if I had different sizing between the models But I'm 36 for all of them
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
before you go back and do that if there were no issues related to fit or comfort, would you want to own a pair of blue jeans?
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
I mean I think so because of the whole jean jacket thing I felt a little confident with it Like I think it's a male thing to feel like a lieutenant or something... There's something manly about it Like wearing a blazer
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
"i felt a little confident with it" this is a good thing to explore "i think it's a male thing to feel like a lieutenant or something...there's something manly about it" i would challenge the implication that confidence is or should be inherently tied to masculinity mainly because there are plenty of reasons why men, women or those not on the gender binary would wear and enjoy jean jackets i'd look into jeans + jean jacket to start since it sounds like you're into that; they'll go with the blacks and greys you currently own in any event if you're willing, try on the jeans again in person (maybe a jean jacket too...) and start another thread asking about fit here
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
My track pants are very athliesure though
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
if you feel good about what you see, start searching ebay
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
I can't mix it with the jean jacket I don't think
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
they may or may not work, the only way to find out is to actually try it though the most impactful thing you can do is find out what you like and what you don't like
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
Like it's not structured enough
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
you may or may not be right; the only way to know for sure is to try it though there are plenty of things that sounded crazy in my head but worked in practice
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock6mo ago
im not from a first-world country but I can echo thrifting a lot of things that were worn very few times should be even better in the us the store was very stingy when I tried to pawn my stuff, they really just tried to accept things that looked new
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
thrifting can be hit or miss in the US but one bad experience isn't indicative of how valuable it can be
JimMD
JimMD6mo ago
There are a lot of second hand/vintage/thrift stores in the LA area. And places like Nordstrom Rack have new designer brand clothes at really low prices, if you find something you like there
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
no i totally get it, i think just the track pants i own are on the floofy side im such an idiot, my moms a hoarder and this influence on me to throw out perfectly good clothes i could have given to thrift stores or homeless shelters some i never even wore im guilty
Gatan do rock
Gatan do rock6mo ago
havent thrown a single piece of outfit out in my life that wasnt underwear/socks either gets re-sold, given to a homeless shelter or turned into a wipe for the floor
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
At some point you may want to investigate this part of your relationship with clothing, but I would consider the fact that you're aware of this now and can take steps towards actnig differently as overall postive. (this is also perhaps beyond the scope of this)
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
On the development of personal style
—finding the self through embracing self-expression and cultivating personal style—
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
If you can, try on some jeans and maybe jean jackets. take pictures make a new thread in #questions-and-advice if you want actual feedback. Wear your black pants, because if you get a jean jacket that will be how they look together.
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
damn... i have those photos you asked for
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
Keep asking questons, keep checking #waywt, keep being inspired. It can be a long process, but the goal should be to spend time rather than money.
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
and its a wake up call to my male grooming i had shaved my head and beard at the same time, i look like a fucking jellybean
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
it happens and hair grows
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
also my face looks so much chubbier than what the mirror tells me
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
there's subthreads in #fashion-discussion for each aspect of grooming (hair, skin, etc)
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
i feel like i look so much skinnier and have a jaw in the mirror
zeometer
zeometer6mo ago
but again: it happens, and hair grows back
.moralcompass
.moralcompassOP6mo ago
I guess another big reason I don't like layering clothes or changing from my athleisure clothes too much is that I don't drive a car, so I'm always sweating from biking and walking all day... My track pants and grey tech shirts holdup over time... I don't think most other stuff will
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