Phenols Class XII

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.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Ans is (B). I know that when Br2/Fe react, bromine attaches to ortho position wrt OH group. But here Br is in para wrt OH. I know the correct ans is B but I also want to know why the other options are eliminated.
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡8mo ago
Many reasons I’d say Firstly, A seems wrong because CHO is between OH and Me which is sterically unfavourable Then for bromination it’s the same reason between Me and OH would be sterically unfavourable Ignore the message before the edit lmao brain lag hogya tha That’s not true tho para is major
Opt
Opt8mo ago
A is wrong because 1. Steric hindrance 2. Even if steric hindrance didn't affect the Reimer-Tiemman reaction, the Bromine would be ortho/para to the the OH and Me groups. C is wrong because OH and Br are both large groups, and there's a methyl group competing for space. Too much steric hindrance. Also, salicylaldehyde hona hai. CHO and OH should be ortho wrt each other D doesn't even have an aldehyde group @.aiglatson
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Yep I eliminated C and D in the same way, as per reimer tiemann there needs to be CHO, and I felt CHO's position cant change when br is added Forgot this bruh 😦 In an earlier question Br was added to ortho only. Thank you guys
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Funnily enough, for most reactions ortho is major product.
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
But para is symmetric and less steric rep so wont it be major?
Opt
Opt8mo ago
21% para 79% ortho Is the usual split Theoretically yes. Experimentally, apparently not
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Chem moment -_- While doing haloarenes I came across 5-6 cases where para is major
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Only when you have a huge steric hindrance like a t-Bu group is when para becomes major
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Okay thanks bhai Youre in 12th too?
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Yup Btw, source: Organic Chemistry, Paula Yurkanis Bruice, 7th Edition
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
🙏 You use this book as reference for OC?
Opt
Opt8mo ago
One of them I use that and Clayden,2nd edition
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Wow great Kaisa hai jee prep?
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Miserable. Sab kuch samajh aaya. Questions nahi ho rahe hai.
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Bhai mai kuch ref book nahi use krta hun aur mera prep kaafi shit hai, I guess my miserable and yours are way apart 😭
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Mera toh modules hi nahi hai yaar
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡8mo ago
D is a case of abnormal reimer teimann reaction (spelling ka pta ni lol)
Opt
Opt8mo ago
Hydrolysis has taken place
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP8mo ago
Why?
iTeachChem
iTeachChem7mo ago
Steric hinderance yea. is this alright, can we close this thread?
.aiglatson
.aiglatsonOP7mo ago
Yes sir +solved @iTeachChem
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