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@Gyro Gearloose
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need to divide the sphere into a thin strip and then integrate basically
Integration
he asked for conducting sphere tho
toh saara charge surface par chala jayega-
Wait mb I wanted to know for solid sphere
The one where result is 3/5 kq2/r
I tried but I get stuck
Not potential , potential energy
you mean self energy??
Yes energy to build it self
yes yes
internet pe dekh lo na hoga kahi derivation available
if this makes sense 💀
Bruh
Self energy bolna
kya lagta hai do i have the qualities of a teacher 🗿
I hope this explains the thing
@Gamertug if you want further explanation just ping me
@DarkWhite
Tumahri is pic m pura derivation nhi h
@Aman Nah bro solid conducting spheres behave like hollow non conductive and hollow conductive spheres so the derivation is complete
Your derivation is for solid non conductive sphere but @Gamertug has asked about solid conductive sphere
Mine is also for conducting
Bruh you send self energy of a hollow sphere 😂
Solid conductive sphere behaves like hollow sphere you have sent this derivation of non conductive solid sphere
Ha
But he asked for self energy of solid conducting sphere
The net electric field inside a conductor is always zero so no charge can remain inside a conductor,
charges accumulate at the surface of any conductor be it solid or hollow,
just cause the conductor is a solid sphere that doesn’t mean the entire body will be charged,
even though a solid conductive sphere is present the charge will accumulate at the surface not inside the body of the sphere so the derivation will be identical to hollow sphere
@Aman this general solid conductor has mass inside it but excess charges reside on the surface
So the charges on a Solid ” conductive “ sphere reside on the surface, your basics are weak my friend, just cause a body is solid doesn’t mean the charges are uniformly distributed in its volume
Here is the ncert paragraph on this idea
Point 3
Why are you telling me about electric field i know it brother asked for self energy of a uniformely charged solid sphere
Bro the concept is bloody related the electric field concept results in the idea that a solid conductive sphere behaves like a hollow conductive sphere
Only a non conductive solid sphere has volumetric distribution of charges
He Bhagwan, please sir @iTeachChem help me get my idea through to this guy
Bruh search epe of asolid conducting sphere
https://byjus.com/question-answer/determine-electrostatic-self-energy-of-a-uniformly-charged-solid-sphere/
Check this @DarkWhite
Ok sir got it
iteachchem
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Ek baar woh website check krle
Again I am not here to prove anything bro the website link also has uniformly charged sphere and that is only possible if it’s non conductive, conductor don’t carry excess charge inside them it’s clearly in NCERT
nah he later said he had mis-typed and he specifically wanted the derivation where the end result is 3/5 Kq^2/r XD
Yes
I mistyped I wanted non conducting sphere and ye conducting sphere = hollow sphere
Wait for dq why aren't we taking k(dq)^2/2r since it's also becoming a shell so self energy for shell
because we are bringing extra charge of dq we arent squaring dq to get energy. We are multiplying dq with the potential of the sphere.
ok but after a certain step like lets say when X dq are on the sphere what about their potential do we neglect it?
we are taking work done on the sphere only due to single charge dq and calculating self evergy from it
in the result, the total charge will account for the total self energy of the sphere
ic thx
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