Best Anti Cheat for Survival Server
Hey, i own a Survival server, and I would like to know what the best anti cheat would be. I don't care much about PVP, what I would like is anti fly, speedhack, autoclick, fast mine, and all the cheats giving an advantage on a survival server.
I don't want a "subscription" plugin (recurring payment), but I don't mind buying a plugin.
Tell me what you think are the best options!
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There’s infinite threads about anti cheats, can just look at any of them. (Just read the first couple messages, people will send 100s of follow up msgs arguing which one is better)
Vulcan or Grim would probably be fine
just use grim
vagdedes about to spawn in i bet you
lol last time I tried Spartan it was not good at all but it was a while ago so who knows maybe he’s been cooking
dare you to DM him and tell him to search up spartan in dc search
What are the differences between them? Grim works differently right?
well
they're two different anticheats
grim = open source and free
vulcan = closed source and paid
there's arguments between which is better
Grim has less automation of sanctions? Which of the two will be more effective in blocking speedhack, fly, boat fly, fast eat, autoclick, nofall, fast mine, inventory move etc ?
(that it is for a survival server)
honestly either
each have their flaws, all have bypasses
not Grim
@Evangelos
you're hilarious
Try it
I wonder how it's going to turn out now that Vagdedes is here
The Anticheat threads are going to be even more heated now 🔥
@Navee_ look
Does Grim only detects movement-related cheats ?
Don't rabble rouse, thank you.
I had a terrible experience with grim
id say grim is better at preventing cheats than vulcan but the one big issue with grim is that you shouldnt really use autobans with it because of the falses
grim is very powerful with just the lagbacks and hit cancels at preventing cheats
but if you want to autoban then vulcan is better though i still wouldnt say its good
how?
A lot of false flags, couldn't move etc on path grass block(or whatever is it called)
?.. when
Dors grim detects cheats like fast eat, autoclick, nofall etc ?
no
No fall maybe?
So only movement
yes plus some bad packet checks and a reach check
Id run grim + Vulcan with all the Vulcan movement + reach turned off
Grim is free maybe i could try using it and move to Vulcan if I need it
Grim is better for movement ?
But is it lighweight ?
It's very lightweight
Vulcan has good combat checks while grim basically has none, that's why I recommend running both
Just disable all the Vulcan movement + reach checks
If you have the money, hackedserver
you can pair it with another anticheat but its really useful
no
that does literally nothing
^^^^^
it has worked very well for me
must have the dumbest people ever
because all clients basically bypass.
with clientspoofing
never failed me lol
ofc i pair it with an anticheat but it works amazing
everytime i have needed to verify it has worked
😭
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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/anticheataddition.33590/
This not a full anticheat, definitely one to be paired with another anticheat but gives attention to many hack modules most anticheats brush away as insignificant, which also happen to be crucial for a survival server. As defined by you, it's purchase-able and non-subscription based.
That prevents literally nothing he listed
And with Grim literally %99 of this is blocked
Yes it does? Or was that sarcastic?
What bypasses does it have
Search for bypass on issue tracker
Most of them are 1.8 and are very insignificant for a 1.20 server
^ so it begins, why I recommend ignoring the rest of comments, you’ll get people fighting over useless stuff on repeat. It’s a waste of your time. Go look at the 100s of other threads
I would say more are 1.9+ due to more uncertainty without flying packet
Literally all of the reports are people who have no idea what they're doing copy pasting code from some random client 😭
And most of them are patched
Still there are bypasses
Make an algorithm that finds all quality advice on such threads. Won't solve the problem, will definitely squeeze usefulness out of it.
Rarely do they ever provide an advantage
Ah, yes. A community that has literally no funding should invest all their money (actually, there's no money, so the staff would have to pay out of their own pocket) in OpenAI credits.
I'm sure Leche is interested in spending his life savings on scraping every message sent to #questions and training a model with it that is at some point bound to spit out bullshit information.
OpenAI seeks to make their products more accessible and cheaper, that's because whoever gets most people to use their AI product, win. Plus, there are ways to optimize cost by a lot.
Literally solves none of the issues I typed
This server has literally no funding, and if you use a cheap model (or even the most advanced model) it will spit out bullshit info and confuse people
It literally fixes nothing
not to mention it could be poisoned /shrug/
It does, you didn't even read my message and stated typing immediately. Open your own thread to evolve this AI suggestion, this one is about anticheats do I won't expand further.
??????????????
"you didn't even read my message" do you have issues
how can you know that
I literally responded to what you typed
ML is a very vague term
to what extent does Spartan use ML
and in what applications
It uses ML
That's all you need to know
yes I know
Trust me bro™️
im asking to what extent it uses it
stop hating so hard on it
we get the point that you don’t like it Jenkins
No that's just the truth
You don't like it too
Literally nobody here does
Stop trying to hide that fact lmao
i like it
@Skullians I'm hopping to use it for combat in the near future
I haven’t used Spartan.
I am reflecting the numerous negative opinions as that is all I’ve heard.
Does it contain any ML at this point in time
The base is there, it's been tested on movement and worked well but was heavy
Yes, for understanding adjustments in checks
ML on movement?????
my gosh...
Ik, huge challenge
Can you expand on that? What adjustments?
Instead of feeding people's conversations into an AI model without the user's consent maybe it may be better to have a community written wiki related to these types of FAQs. Like comparing anticheats, etc. Still would take a bit of effort
No, it's just stupid unless you mean prediction/simulation by "ML"
See, this guy gets it.
nah i like it
Just make a new post
then why are you advertising it if it's not even in the anticheat yet?
😭
they said they use it
so the advertisement point is still valid
if they said ‘we use ML in every aspect of the anticheat’ it would be false
Oh, where?
no matter how misleading you say it is, it’s still a somewhat valid point
ong
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Prevention violation: the level at which the anticheat starts preventing
Punishment violation: the level at which the anticheat punishes a player
Notification level: the level at which the anticheat will notify
Suspicion level: the position at which a player has deviated from the mean and is likely to be a hacker
Etc
actual evidence of this would be nice (that you use some ML)
That's not machine learning
I'd like to tell you to copy your ID, go into the search bar, do from: <your id> and search for spartan
did you read anything I just said?
I HAVENT used Spartan
I am REFLECTING the numerous negative opinions I have been exposed to
^ The point is that you're doing the same
I don’t care if I get 1000 negative reviews to 1 positive review
to actually know if it is a good anticheat or not it would actually have to be put through actual testing
Doesn't sound like something skullian has said..
You literally tagged Vagededes in this thread to start shit, please stop.
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There are currently no outstanding options that stand out from the pack. This isn't just my opinion, but one shared by nearly every server owner.
The best thing you can do is have active staff who monitor alerts from Vulcan or NCP+. This is what I have gathered from seeing a server owner ask at least once a week in SMC. There are zero reliable anticheats that detect bedrock players.
I personally don't even bother with an anticheat because of how frivolous they are, but when I did, I used NCP+.
I hope this helps!
NCP+? Or UNCP
Didn't you have your own anticheat?
Why'd you use a competitor when you have your own lmao
@Pseudo_Original I will remind you of my suggestion because I think you can pair with any anticheat you decide to select out of this thread.
It's literally not needed
Also, quick tip: if you really want it just compile it from source, don't pay for it
Yes. It's only 1.8.
ah
It's pretty easy, DM me if you need help
It detects other versions but not reliably and I don't sell it anymore after being swatted over it :duckslappy:
NCP idk why I put a + :smiledoge: bit redundant sorry for confusion
Still didn't answer his question lol
You mean UNCP?
Updated NCP
I did answer tho I clarified I meant NCP
Never used UNCP never heard it discussed by owners
What version was the server
1.20.x
Then you used Updated NCP
NCP doesn't even support 1.8 bro
Wow the amount of messages 🤣
🤦♂️
never heard it referred to as such
I'll probably try Grim (maybe with Vulcan for not movement related cheats)
Anticheats are always a controversial topic with lots of opinions
Yep! This
Make sure to follow the design philosophy too
Grim is free i have nothing to lose by trying!
Wdym ?
GitHub
Design Philosophy
Fully async, multithreaded, predictive, open source, 3.01 reach, 1.005 timer, 0.01% speed, 99.99% antikb, "bypassable" 1.8-1.20 anticheat. - GrimAnticheat/Grim
Grim is meant to false a lot, that's kind of by design
But your players won't even notice it
Is Grim updated anymore?
Kinda but not very active. And no longer by define
I don't really understand 😅 It says that the players are cheating and the staff has to come check afterwards?
v2 no, v3 I’ve heard things
Is grim optimized ?
No, the opposite
yes
You install the anticheat and forget about it
Staff don't need to watch people who are flagging
Yes
Shouldn't make any lag
Since it runs on netty
unless netty threads get overloaded then the network will be shit but whatever, that has never happened lmao
then add more netty threads
:D
V3 is going to be open source
I hope so
But it'll also be SaaS like Polar
With additional cloud checks
???
where did you hear that
Grim Anticheat — Home
Grim Anticheat is a free & powerful anticheat for Minecraft Java Edition servers.
Should I ban or kick when a cheat is detected ?
Also go on their discord and look at the discussion channel
There's a thread there iirc
alright
Aoelite confirms it
I thought they deleted their discord?
Do nothing
Nope
Well I'm not going to let the players cheat?
It won't
It'll mitigate them
^
Wdym ?
Does it prevent cheats from working?
yes
yes
Oh
Amazing
like you can ban if you wish
no point imo
but yeah
I can just send alert
yes
So the staff can punish if the guy cheats too much
most acs (at least Vulcan) have discord support for alerts etc
and in game alerts ofc
grim does aswell
There is discord webhook with Grim
yes
Yes
I dont really understand how is works tbh
With a Discord bot ?
webhooks
no bot required
No a webhook
^^
I have never used it I will find out
theres plenty of people here familiar with anticheats so feel free to ask
@Casper my computer is a Casper.
idk what that means
My computer's brand is Casper
link?
casperturkiye
Oyun Bilgisayarı, Telefon Modelleri ve Dahası! - Casper
Casper masaüstü, laptop ve Excalibur oyun bilgisayarı konfigürasyonu, akıllı telefon ve tablet en iyi Casper ürünleri, rekabetçi fiyat ve servis hizmeti sunuyor.
Damn you really have dementia
I've sent you that over 5 times
😭
xdd
im not known for having a great memory