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iTeachChem•9mo ago
trin

magnetism

can someone help me with this question?
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iTeachChem Helper•9mo ago
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iTeachChem Helper•9mo ago
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myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
you can consider the semicircular wire as a wire of length 2R totally legal
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
yes but how to approach it?
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
you first consider the wire then use dF=Bidx where b is the field due to infinite wire and integrate it
Ghostty
Ghostty•9mo ago
@trin
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trin
trinOP•9mo ago
i wanna know by the theta method
Ghostty
Ghostty•9mo ago
If you take the arc and then find force the term dx cos(theta) will appear in integration and it is exactly equal to small change in horizontal direction
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
i got the expression i wanna know how to integrate it since i didnt come to that part in integration yet
Ghostty
Ghostty•9mo ago
@trin this approach is common in many sections of physics
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myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
I think you should wait for integration chapter for this method💀
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
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myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
I realized I have made the mistake of not taking components of force cuz one of them will be canceled out The horizontal one to be precise will get canceled out So sintheta is still left in the equation
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
nah idt theyll get cancelled out cause force is different
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
But you would have to integrate compo differently I just in case usually do that to avoid getting wronged But one of the integration will be trouble some so it is better to avoid it
Niggil
Niggil•9mo ago
instead of taking the theta with respet to the horizontal take the theta with respect to the vertical and integrate it from pi/2 to -pi/2
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
@trin horizontal one is getting canceled
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myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
I just solved y compo and it is the same as the original answer which means there is no x compo of force
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
there's a x compo
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
this is the x compo
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myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
lemme explain to you in a way like we consider this a wire of length 2R right? and the force on that wire is only in the y direction so therefore i think there should be no force x direction but i should probs try finding the x compo of force
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
as far as my teacher told theres a x compo
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
what did you use as limits
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
0 to pi
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
and when you substituted a term the limits became -infinity to infinity?
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
i guess 😭 idek whats happening
Niggil
Niggil•9mo ago
blud i legit just told you to integrate form -pi/2 to pi/2 and take theta at veritacl line instead of horizontal. In the final thingy the x componnents gets cancelled bro
myst1cboomer
myst1cboomer•9mo ago
Bro ko pta hai bro
Niggil
Niggil•9mo ago
kisko?
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•9mo ago
hi @trin we good with this?
trin
trinOP•9mo ago
nope but ill learn the whole integration and then try it out thanks 🙂 +solved @Niggil
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iTeachChem Helper•9mo ago
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