What do you think about these videos
As I watch every video from Theo I'm confused about these two videos from DarkViper (I did not know this guy before watching these videos). What do you think about them? Seems like a profound critique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9fkdpmJD4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BFIDYYYCA
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The Self Destruction Of A Compulsive Liar - Debunking Theo's New Lies
In this deep dive, I delve into a complex story of copyright, fair use, and the thin line between content creation and content theft. The saga begins with a controversial video upload that sparked a fierce debate about the rights of documentary filmmakers versus the freedom of content creators on YouTube. This isn't just a story about legal batt...
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A Mountain of Lies And No Self-Awareness: Exposing Theo - t3․gg
In this in-depth video, I address a complex situation that has unfolded over the past year involving allegations, misinformation, and a dispute that has grown beyond my initial intentions. I aim to set the record straight, debunking falsehoods and presenting my perspective on the interactions and conflicts that have occurred. This is not just ab...
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While DarkViper holds good arguments and illustrates his points, you should still make your own opinion and critical judgement about every content you consume online, even if you like a specific YouTuber or anything
Also, the legal points he his addressing are pretty unclear in various legal systems, hence you should keep in mind that both point of views are strongly opinionated and may not represent the truth
Yes, absolutely! I did not know DarkViper and he made good points and because I'm in Theos community I just wanted to know what other people here think about these videos.
In the end, what matters it that you fill happy about the content you consume, no matter the biais and stuff, but it is still healthy to consider the opinion of people being in the "other camp"
I definitely enjoy the Theo's content, but DarkViper made the point that Theo's content could hurt the blog authors so I don't know if I should enjoy his content anymore.
I don't see why you should, you are the one watching anyway. Also, would you have found the blog in the first place without Theo?
If there is a valid point to be made in favor of huge react content across the Internet, is how they help making some niche content more discoverable and stuff
Hmmmmm, that's a good question. I'm always so lost finding these articles. I tried so many times.
But the videos are not only limited to the question "is reacting to blog posts legitimate?". It's also about Theo as a person. What do you think about this part of the videos?
i don't recall exactly the video, but if i'm not mistaken he goes about theo's ego and "lies."
Ultimately, we all have our own opinion regarding individuals and the way they appear to us. I would be lying if I was saying Theo didn't have a massive ego which sometimes decrease the trust I have in his arguments.
As for the "lies", I guess a lot of people tends to overreact and changes a bit the wording in their favor, I personally do not care as I do not consider Theo to be a technical pillar in the first place
Idk if it's in the video, but I would encourage thinking about the stuff you are consuming and not just trusting every words, so that you could forge your opinion and avoid getting mislead, which to me is important as (at least recently), most of Theo's videos were full of ads, not precise takes, or worse, falseries
Yeah, I especially was completely disagreeing with these "senior swes" from the yt comments in the second vid
Would you mind linking to these comments?
one comment mentioned in the video published a month ago
the comments start at around 7:20 in the video
oh, there is a third video, maybe I also have to watch this one
But it's hilarously how much this guy is shitting on Theo. More than an hour of content.
And with the second video I already had the feeling that he is just repeating himself
Yeah this comment is a bit of bad quality given how poorly written his arguments are (they are mostly ad hominem), however I wouldn't disagree that much with the end of his first paragraph
yeah, too
I mean isn't his fight against react content a primary role of his channel? Also I guess he is replying to the public about some tweets Theo made at the time, isn't?
But yeah he also benefits from this from a monetary side so...
Actually no. His Theo videos were barely watched compared to his other content.
I mean, on average 130k on the video, still not bad
yeah, but half the average
For sure, but it is still a massive amount of views (130k is comparable to the population of medium sized cities in Europe)
Yeah, but you have to see it in the right context.
If you assume that his Theo videos took more time to make he could have made 2 - 3 times more videos with around twice the audience
Seems like Dark Viper has a personal problem with Theo
🤷 idk, what I see is that 130k people still watched on average, no matter "the right context", in the end it's his job and personal motivation so?
nothing so. but someone must have a big problem if he is spending so much time into this videos
here's a response from one of those blog authors: https://vxtwitter.com/kettanaito/status/1788326003481235847
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@t3dotgg Once again, thank you for featuring the article! So happy to know more people will learn about patching globals.
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I honestly wanted to give this a good shot, but Im tapping out at 15:01 of the first movie. I hadnt heard of DarkViper before this, but obviously heard of Theo. I figured this could mean I could be biased, so I felt that blindly discarding the videos would be a bad move and started watching. I also haven't heard of the incident with Honeypot prior to this and this could be because I wasn't consuming Theo's content then. For that reason Ill refrain from diving in too deep on that situation, because it'd be hard to gauge what Theo was like back then. But today he's calling out credits all the time so he has either learned from making that mistake or he learned avoiding situations where he would get blamed for something he didn't do.
I do agree that Theo is a bit vain and likes being seen, but that's exactly the reason why his face is on YouTube and mine isn't. He has a strong online presence, so I get why people could get annoyed by seeing him on multiple platforms. Its the same reason why I've blocked his content on daily.dev. My YouTube algorithm will serve me his videos already and there's no added value for me to find links to his content that I've already seen (this is already kind of awkward when you've seen the Twitch stream (when it's recorded) and get the video as recommendation later).
About the 15 minutes I did watch. My two reasons why I didn't want to finish the video are:
* In the description of the honeypot situation, DarkViper adjusts his voice to steer the direction. This feels manipulative to me. He could've just presented the sources without any steering and have us come to our own conclusion.
* After the honeypot situation is discussed he criticizes Theo for just reading to posts for his audience. How does he do this? By reading reddit comments to his audience. I hope everyone can appreciate this irony. One redditor brings up a good point about possibly stealing ad revenue. This is definitely good to take into consideration. While I don't have any numerical evidence to back up my believes; I think that a lot of the posts are personal blog style posts by developers that care a lot about improving their area of expertise for everyone involved. The people who are posting for ad revenue will just dump their trash on Medium*. Authors of the "personal blog style" articles are often present in chat during these times. Over all I get a very strong feeling that the relation between these writers and Theo is symbiotic.
* Also notice it's shown how Theo is covering a blog is shown in those first 15 minutes. Theres a "5000% speed" text overlay. It's about 15 seconds long in the video, so a bit over 10 minutes of time normally. The content being scrolled over should be 2-3 minutes of read time? Theo couldnt turn that into 10 minutes if he didnt have something of importance to say about it (Prime could tho, Im still in shambles over his ability to coherently talk gibberish)
* If you want to check how long of a read you'd think that part is Ill give you the link. You dont have to turn off your adblocker, because its adless; https://12challenges.substack.com/p/how-to-deal-with-receiving-a-cease
If I've missed any good points by tuning out early then please do send me the timestamped links. Also since I dont want to shill Theo too hard, let me balance it a bit; Linux desktop would be fully viable in the absence of Electron. (Source: GTK & Qt)
* I'm salty at Medium because in a very rare occasion there's a lack of sources on something I'm trying to find sources for and it could possibly be on Medium. But it's likely that I've already been baited enough times before then (also by a lack of transparent linking on daily.dev), which means I don't get to read that article.
Edit: indenting bullet point
How to deal with receiving a cease-and-desist letter from Big Tech
Although this article isn’t related to any of the 12 Challenges so far, it’s on a subject I’m developing for a potential future challenge. In July 2021 Facebook sent me a cease-and-desist letter because I made a browser extension, Unfollow Everything, which helped people use Facebook less.
Yeah, I also had the feeling that he is always adding value to the content he reads.