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iTeachChem9mo ago
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Alkyl halides

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iTeachChem9mo ago
What do the reagents do? Share an attempt na
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
Remove HBr for every mole of NaNH2 used Then make an anion per NaNH2 used Then attack CH3I from both the sides (2)
Joe Biden
Joe Biden9mo ago
So obviously b is gonna be 2.
ree
reeOP9mo ago
I'm getting a =2
Joe Biden
Joe Biden9mo ago
And since NaNH2 just removes 1 Bromine per attack. It should be 4. but I am unable to get why is there a triple bond there.
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
You are removing 4 HBr and making anion on 2 sides
ree
reeOP9mo ago
NaNH2 performs E2 elimination right? So br and h need to be in anti
Joe Biden
Joe Biden9mo ago
OH DAMN. GOT IT. 6 HBR ARE GONNA BE USED AND 2 CH3I 2 HBr will be used for making the negative charges turning it into electrophiles
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
There’s no stereochemistry here tho
Joe Biden
Joe Biden9mo ago
a = 6 and b = 2. Sum will be 8
ree
reeOP9mo ago
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!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
First convert it to an alkyne and then abstract the proton since it becomes more acidic when alkyne
Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
a=4 b=2 ?
ree
reeOP9mo ago
Wrong
Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
wait i messed up
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
a = 6 b = 2 4 moles NaNH2 used for E2 as you said and you get 2 terminal alkyne ends 2 moles NaNH2 used to abstract terminal proton which is highly acidic making a nucleophile which attacks 2 moles of CH3I
Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
a= 6 and b =2 ?
ree
reeOP9mo ago
I got it Sharing in a min (I hate the one min timeout)
Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
exactly i used 2 nanh2 for e2 elimination and 2 for protonation thats why i got a=4
ree
reeOP9mo ago
I still don't get one thing After formation of alkene the carbon atoms gets planar hence there is no anti syn in br and h so how will further E2 occur
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Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
there are 2 H and 1 Br which means that 1 H must by anti wrt Br and 1 must be syn wrt Br
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
But Br and H dekhna hai why you care about C
ree
reeOP9mo ago
But carbon is sp2 which means it is planar Which means br and h are in same plane @!Nimay¡
Linarp
Linarp9mo ago
sp2 se mtlb nahi hota syn anti same side opposite side dekhne ke liye kaam aate hai sp2 ke logic ke hisaab se sp3 me koi syn anti hi nahi hoga na as saare bond angles equal
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
Being planar doesn’t matter there’s still Br and H anti to each other
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ree
reeOP9mo ago
accha thank you both of you
!Nimay¡
!Nimay¡9mo ago
Anti periplanar best way to say is 180 degree If Lg and H are 180 degree to each other they are anti lmao
ree
reeOP9mo ago
+solved @!Nimay¡ @Linarp
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