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iTeachChem•10mo ago
zero

maths , sets doubt

i just started 11th btw , so i might sound very dumb asking this well , generally in set builder form , we write the common property of each element of the set right what if the elements of the set have nothing in common >
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iTeachChem Helper
iTeachChem Helper•10mo ago
@Gyro Gearloose
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iTeachChem Helper•10mo ago
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iTeachChem
iTeachChem•10mo ago
@nermal xD I think Phys is being pinged by default @Apu
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
A set is only defined if the elements have something common property other wise it will not be set
Scientific Shrey
Scientific Shrey•10mo ago
It's not dumb, Cool that you asked See set builder form is one of the methods to denote sets, A way to represent one in very nice, convenient way Now sets can be made of unrelated things, Sets can be made of any things that you want, but in case they're not very related, it may not be possible to represent them in the set builder form
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
thank you :) can we represent G= {11,19,141} in set builder form ?
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
Yes bro
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
well could you tell the answer :)
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
G is a subset of set of real nos
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
mm thanks G={x:x is a real number} ? doesnt seem much specific to me 😕
vj_25
vj_25•10mo ago
or G={x:x is a natural number less than 142}
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
mm , could you give some examples of roster sets that cannot have set builder form? :)
vj_25
vj_25•10mo ago
i will try...but i dont think so
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
No i t means G = {1,2,3...141}
vj_25
vj_25•10mo ago
yeah mb i should have written subset as well
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
Np
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
i still didnt get it 😔
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
Tell me where you are confused
Weirdo
Weirdo•10mo ago
There would be no easy way to define this set using a set builder form , but you can deff make something , but dw that type of sets which doesnt have a visible pattern wont be asked to make in a set builder form i can try to make the set builder form of G if you want , i can define some function using the numbers
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
Yeah its representation is beyond JEE Btw these all are semiprime nos
Weirdo
Weirdo•10mo ago
using this would be a little cyclic but this is one of the ways you can represent that as set builder: G = {x : 8k-5x+15 = 0 , k ∈ {5,10,86.25} } but you wont be ever asked to convert something in set builder form unless there is a visible pattern or series
Priyam Alok
Priyam Alok•10mo ago
Very nice definition but to we have to also define K set that means we are stuck in a loop
Weirdo
Weirdo•10mo ago
yeah exactly what i meant by cyclic set but yeah it is what it is maybe it can be represented on some nice function which have nice solutions , i will try finding it later
Weirdo
Weirdo•10mo ago
lmfao
iTeachChem
iTeachChem•10mo ago
@zero you good? shall we mark this one as solved?
zero
zeroOP•10mo ago
Yep ig
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iTeachChem•10mo ago
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