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mfad9mo ago
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Insulated, water repellent jacket recommendations

Similar to the recent question regarding parkas. I’m looking for a jacket, sans hood, slant pockets, that is water repellent and insulated. Based on my research 🧐 I’m thinking 60-100gsm. I recently moved to the PNW and am looking for a good daily driver that can go with most outfits, be warm enough over just a t-shirt in about 30-45°F temps and actively repel/resist rain. I know most quilted jackets have some manner of DWR coating, but I’m after something where the water beads up more given the nature of the weather here. Budget is around $450 or less (unless it’s way baller, then I will splurge 👏). Generally the price goes up with the quality/performance of the insulation, I’m cool with it. I’m 6’2”, about 180lb. Generally a medium for more modern/slim fits. Can’t say I’ve ever measured my outerwear jackets but I’m a 40R in blazers. I had originally ordered this https://bonobos.com/products/the-harrington-jacket?color=jet%20black G9 clone from Bonobos but it is crazy boxy and unflattering AF so I’m returning it. Not really a big fan of the collar either. This Skyliner from Huckberry X Eddie Baur might be an option but I was a little concerned about the lining clashing. https://huckberry.com/store/eddie-bauer/category/p/76023-huckberry-x-eddie-bauer-skyliner-jacket I generally wear a lot of pastels. I really like the look of the Mission Workshop Eiger https://missionworkshop.com/products/eiger-waterproof-field-jacket?variant=31820304580717 but other than it saying “it adapts to temperatures” I have no idea on actual performance. I like that it has side zip pockets because for daily wear I prefer those to drop-in pockets typical of chore jackets. Wish it didn’t have a hood though. Someone had suggested just getting a shell over an insulated lining, which has validity, but not what I’m looking for. Anyhoo, thanks in advance ❤️‍🔥
The Harrington Jacket
Free shipping and returns. The choice of '60s film stars made modern. Water resistant and cool as heck.
MISSION WORKSHOP
Eiger
The Eiger is our take on the classic military field jacket and is waterproof. Built with the best materials available to the highest standard of construction, this jacket is a timeless classic with a modern emphasis.
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Bigelow
Bigelow9mo ago
I think most of the people here who live in the PNW would suggest that your daily driver rain jacket has a hood
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
Yeah. Without a hood just get a Nano Puff and have done with it.
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state_gridOP9mo ago
Well that’s all fine and good, but I want some retail therapy and to buy a sexy new jacket 😂 What about waxed jackets? I know of them, but I’ve never worn one before. Not sure what to look for or if that might be an option here
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
they make hooded nano
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
That's true. It's not very waterproof though
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
yeah :( a lot of stuff isn’t really great anymore since the material we used to use to make it is super toxic you can do a lotttt of research into the fact goretex isnt even the same material it used to be, and is pretty much like every other fabric now at this point you need to regularly spray your stuff with DWR (durable water repellent) to achieve the same effect i have a patagonia down jacket (favorite jacket of all time) and it comes preapplied, but i just try to reapply it somewhat infrequently you can buy spray bottles of the stuff on amazon for like $15 tldr: water repellency isnt what it used to be, because toxic- basically any jacket you buy will have the same level of repellency after a month or so of use unless you reapply DWR
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state_gridOP9mo ago
Something like this? https://a.co/d/aI3WltR FWIW, I do already own a Patagonia Nano Puff (no hood). But when it’s actually raining, the jacket itself gets soaked. Yes, I stay dry but I can’t just shake it off or anything. Btw, I’m originally from a much cooler climate than the PNW. I have a lot of warm jackets but they’re great for snow, not for rain.
Gear AID Revivex Durable Water Repellent (DWR) Spray for Waterproof...
Specifically engineered for soft shell garments. ReviveX water repellents will totally restore and/or create DWR (Durable Water Repellency) to any outerwear that can be washed and tumble dried.
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
I personally don't see much use for insulated rain jackets. I just wear a waterproof shell and layer. I had one from North Face but rarely wore it.
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
I think they are relatively unusual. For example, Columbia makes a lot of jackets, but this seems like the only one that fits the bill: https://www.columbia.com/p/mens-landroamer-lined-jacket-2051061.html?dwvar_2051061_color=257
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
Yup exactly It’s the unfortunate reality of waterproofing jackets now Grangers and Nikwax are the go to- and not particularly expensive
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
I don't see anything at Patagonia. Plenty of raincoats, but none with lightweight insulation.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
What do you mean? Almost all of their jacks are in an insulated section
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
just spray it with dwr and keep the nano puff
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
He wants an insulated raincoat, not an insulated jacket that's water-resistant.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
again, these are the same thing bro we don’t make waterproof coats anymore,,,, even goretex is sprayed with DWR look at any raincoat, like at all and they are all sprayed with DWR, that is what makes them waterproof Waterproof/breathable rainwear is constructed using a membrane or coating that serves as a barrier that rain cannot penetrate. The outer surface of most rainwear (known as the face fabric) is also treated with a durable water repellent (DWR) finish that keeps raindrops from soaking that surface and compromising the breathability of the underlying membrane or coating. copy pasted once that dwr wears off, or you can accidentally wash it out, rainjackets will ultimately soak through even if you don’t get wet
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
I disagree. My patagonia torrentshell has vastly more protection from a downpour than a nano-puff ever will. It's a raincoat, designed to keep you dry. A nano-puff is not.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
Waterproof/breathable H2No® Performance Standard 3-layer shell provides the highest levels of comfort, performance and long-term waterproof durability; the fabrics, membrane and durable water repellent (DWR) finish are made without perfluorinated chemicals (PFCs/PFAS) 🤣 literally same finish and build as the nano puff Lightweight 100% recycled polyester ripstop shell with a durable water repellent (DWR) finish made without perfluorinated chemicals (PFCs/PFAS) 💀 like i’m not hating but basically every piece of raingear now a says is just DWR coated “100% recycled nylon ripstop face, a polycarbonate PU membrane with 13% biobased content, a tricot backer and a DWR finish” like they are both made from nylon ripstop my b polyester or nylon
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
So, I actually own a Torrentshell, and my wife owns a nano-puff. I am extremely confident that the Torrentshell will keep you much more dry than the nano puff will.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
with a DWR finish did u read any of what i said about reapplying DWR liek i literally can’t explain the same thing over and over eventually the torrentshell will be the same, just apply DWR and it will be like brand new i ski in a patagonia down jacket, or a nano and have worn it in torrential downpour without getting wet… i also have a torrentshell, powder day from pat and they are the same water resistance i have the arcteryx beta lv, and their down jacket i forgot the name of they’re literally all the exact same i promise you DWR washes out, wears out, runs off, etc over time
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
The torrentshell has a waterproof membrane that is where the real protection comes from. The DWR is just a surface treatment that, as you said, wears off and has to be reapplied.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
idek how you can even be convinced of this when they are made from the same fabric and on patagonias site both say coated with a DWR finish yeah most of pattys jackets are membrane
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
Not the nano puff. Not my jackson glacier puffer.
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
the nano puff is a laminate jacket bro… like it is laminate nylon which is exactly how a membrane works like membranes are not impermeable, in any fashion that is how jackets are breathable the dwr is what is there for water resistance torentshell with dwr that hasnt been reapplied:
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
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Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
pretty easy to soak the fabric
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state_gridOP9mo ago
Good discussion in here. Even if sticking with a typical nylon + DWR, any suggestions for more clean lines or traditional jacket styles? Here’s another one I found at Buck Mason: https://www.buckmason.com/products/ranger-green-shell-cloth-insulated-explorer-jacket?variant=41007707160659
Buck Mason
Ranger Green Shell Cloth Insulated Explorer Jacket - Buck Mason- Mo...
Ranger Green Shell Cloth Insulated Explorer Jacket - Classic fit insulated chore jacket cut from ultralight weather-resistant nylon with PrimaLoft fill.
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state_gridOP9mo ago
It’s a chore jacket though and I don’t like the drop in pockets
Andrei
Andrei9mo ago
technical is honestly where i buy outdoor gear, so i can’t help much with avoiding that look 😢
state_grid
state_gridOP9mo ago
¯\(°_O)/¯
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
Probably the classic option would be a waxed cotton Barbour jacket, which are not cheap, but are within your budget. Not something I know much about, but something like this: https://www.barbour.com/us/barbour-ashby-wax-jacket-olive
Ashby Waxed Jacket
The Ashby is a stylish, practical all seasons jacket. Constructed in Barbour's signature 6oz Sylkoil waxed cotton, with a matte finish and a comfortable, lived-in feel. Slightly more tailored than the Bedale, yet still allowing room for essential winter layering, classic features include a 'Stormfly' front with hardy stud fastenings, a smart sit...
state_grid
state_gridOP9mo ago
🤌 I’ll take a peek at their offerings. Any other suggestions on similar brands?
jfarrell468
jfarrell4689mo ago
I'm not the person to ask
state_grid
state_gridOP9mo ago
Well as a bit of an update, I found this one: https://huckberry.com/store/flint-and-tinder/category/p/83226-waxed-mill-jacket which is pretty much what I was after…. So of course it’s out of stock in my size But I did order one of these: https://huckberry.com/store/flint-and-tinder/category/p/66590-quilted-waxed-shirt-jacket
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